Upgrade Hifi for Vinyl/CD. <£1k.

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I've been looking around at AVForums and such but wanted to check before pulling the trigger (and I don't want to be abused by Bluewizard)

I want to replace my entry level £100 speakers and £100 amp and was looking at the following:

Yamaha AS501 Stereo Amplifier £249
Monitor Audio Bronze 2 £249
Sony PSHX500 turntable £249

Which would leave me a little for speaker stands and maybe a CD player.

Is this a decent enough combo for the money? I'm happier to go New than Used and I'm not an audiophile.

Oh other things to note: I'd love to be able to use my Logitech Harmony with this amp which I THINK I can, and I'll likely be hooking up a Sonos connect to it at some point. Any issues there?

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The Yamaha is good, I use it to power my Kef LS50s.

Not familiar with the speakers or turntable... but I know the speakers get good reviews for their price point.

I've seen some well priced second hand Kef R300s and LS50s on AVForums if you could stomach second hand for that...
 
I'm not an audiophile.

I beg to differ. Anybody, and I do mean anybody; anybody spending time to make sure their money is spent wisely on audio is most definitely is an audiophile. That's the very definition of the word.

What you really meant was that you're not obsessive about it, and that's fine; lots of audiophiles aren't obsessive about sound either. What they (we) love is music and we want it to sound the best without spending a fortune.


The Yam amp is good. The Sony turntable... it's debatable.

If you particularly need the ability to rip vinyl to hi-res audio files and want your TT to come with USB output and a bit of software to make that happen then this is probably the turntable for you.

My personal view is that a TT has just one job to do, and that's to get as much information out of the groove as accurately as possible. That happens when the TT is well engineered (good bearings, stable motor, decent arm and cartridge), and within a £250 retail budget there's only so far that money can be spread before making some inevitable compromises. Guess what happens when you start siphoning off money to pay for built-in phono stages with analogue to digital converters and USB output?

The Yamaha AS301 has a built-in phono stage. You could buy a turntable where there's no money wasted on an internal phono pre-amp and use the Yamaha's instead. That opens up your choice for a TT where more money went in to the tonearm, bearings and motor. The Rega Planar 1 ticks all those boxes.

Alternatively, if you're just looking for any TT with a USB output, the Flexson Vinylplay is a better package. The tonearm and turntable is made by Rega and they know vinyl replay better than Sony. It sounds better than the Sony TT too and is £50 cheaper @ £199.


Speakers: Monitor Audio is always good value. The Bronze 2 are an evolution from the equally adept BX2 which were a favourite budget choice.

Like crinkleshoes though, I'd be in favour of looking second-hand for speakers. Speaker evolution is a gradual thing. There aren't huge leaps in performance every time a new model comes out. Well, not unless someone in the design department made some bad choices and the sound of the new model is drastically worse lol. That means the Bronze 2 aren't way ahead of the BX2.

Currently there's a pair of BX2 with stands for sale on Ebay for £200 in Bradford. They look in decent condition from the limited images in the post. The only minor points are that there's no info about speaker grilles (just ask if they're included) and the bi-wire links have been replaced with thick speaker wire which is a common tweak amongst the audio fraternity.

While looking on Ebay I came across a pair of BX5 floorstanders in black @ £250. These are also in Bradford. That might not be your colour but they caught my eye because they sound better than BX2s.

The 5's add a bass weight that 2's can't reproduce, and once you hear it then it's hard to go back. The other thing is that 5's take up no more space than 2's on stands. At retail, 5's were double the price (£500 vs £250) and so they sold in lower volumes. Of the Bronze/BX range they're the hidden gem.


As for your other questions, the Yamaha IR code-base is well known to Harmony so you shouldn't have an issue there. Adding a Connect is simply a case of connecting the Line Out from the Connect to a spare Line In on the Yamaha. It's not difficult.
 
I picked up a Leema Pulse 2 amplifier for £150 delivered a while back on eBay by hawking the buy-it-nows. It was £1200 new and still sells for £400-500. If you have patience, for £1k, you could assemble a £3-5k hifi for your budget. Turntable bargains are harder to find though.

I also spent £300 on Dynaudio Focus 110s, for further example. These were £1-1.2k new. To go with them, I picked up some Dynaudio stands with a load of atabites in for under £30. There are some ridiculous bargains to be found if you can be bothered searching.
 
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I picked up a Leema Pulse 2 amplifier for £150 delivered a while back on eBay by hawking the buy-it-nows. It was £1200 new and still sells for £400-500. If you have patience, for £1k, you could assemble a £3-5k hifi for your budget. Turntable bargains are harder to find though.

I also spent £300 on Dynaudio Focus 110s, for further example. These were £1-1.2k new. To go with them, I picked up some Dynaudio stands with a load of atabites in for under £30. There are some ridiculous bargains to be found if you can be bothered searching.

There's no doubting the value of used Hi-Fi, but it's not a solution for everyone.

For someone looking for a one-hit solution there's a lot of value in listening to a system in its complete form to see if it gels. This is the same reason why a system randomly selected from best reviewed gear rarely works well together.

It can be a lot of fun buying and selling used gear and trying new components in a system though, just so long as you have a very clear idea of the sound you're looking for.
 
Actually that's a fair point. I currently have 4 pairs of speakers and 2 amps after a lot of chopping and changing. :p

I did have 4 amps until not long ago.
 
Lovely responses thanks all.

I am going to stick with new unless someone reliable on here starts shifting kit. I only say that cause I have a little one due any day now and I can't be hassled with things that don't work properly, or come from a smokers home, or have bits missing or stuff like that. I'd love to put in an order, and bish bash bosh all sorted.

I won't rule out bargain used kit in the future but I'm still not really sure what I'm looking for and just wanna listen to my new Christmas vinyls and my dad's original Bowie pressings with some nice results :))

Definitely going to look at the Rega Planar instead of the Sony, I dont need USB particularly.

Will be back with more questions before pulling the trigger I'm sure!
 
Lovely responses thanks all.

I am going to stick with new unless someone reliable on here starts shifting kit. I only say that cause I have a little one due any day now and I can't be hassled with things that don't work properly, or come from a smokers home, or have bits missing or stuff like that. I'd love to put in an order, and bish bash bosh all sorted.

I won't rule out bargain used kit in the future but I'm still not really sure what I'm looking for and just wanna listen to my new Christmas vinyls and my dad's original Bowie pressings with some nice results :))

Definitely going to look at the Rega Planar instead of the Sony, I dont need USB particularly.

Will be back with more questions before pulling the trigger I'm sure!

If you know what you're looking for, you can get incredible bargains, for example with your £250 budget on speakers alone I bought a £1000 set of standmounts and a £700 center speaker!
 
I've been looking at that Yamaha amp also. But can't help myself but feel that the Marantz PM6006 for £20 more might be worth the extra outlay. Certainly seems to review much better than the Yamaha, although I think the Yamaha is more powerful.
 
LOL... I know they're good... but £2k on an amp for a pair of £800 bookshelves is a little silly ;)

The ratio of amp->speakers is usually 25-30%
 
I know you said you wouldn’t consider secondhand , but I absolutely love my 1976 pioneer PL12d and my Celestion dittion , I’ve upgraded the cart to a ortofon red .
The amp is the onkyo 9010 and I’ve added a chrome cast audio to it
Mine is a modest setup but I absolutely love it
 
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