Upgrade options advice please?

broona · 3 Oct 2022 at 11:37

My son currently has the following spec PC :-

AMD Ryzen 5 3600
Nvidia 3070
Noctua NH-U12S SE-AM4 CPU Cooler
Gigabyte GA-AB350-GAMING 3
Corsair Vengeance 16GB 3200Mhz
Samsung 970 Evo Plus 500 GB
2tb Corsair MX500
Corsair RM750i
Gamemax F15M

We appear to have bricked his motherboard whilst activating secure boot to play stupid FIFA 23...

I'm toying with the idea of either a replacement motherboard, or a replacement motherboard and a new CPU whilst we've got it all in bits.

I'm thinking either 5600x or 12100/12400F, then just reuse his existing RAM and GPU, and hopefully his cooler if I can get Intel fittings for the AM4 only version?

Any recommendations please? Thanks.

Leww · 3 Oct 2022 at 12:09

What resolution is he playing games at (4k or 1440p or 1080p)?

Is it playing anything other than FIFA etc?

What you have there is perfectly fine for anything on 1440p so if thats your resolution, find a good £100-£120 mobo that will be totally fine. You can then keep an eye out for deals on cpus over the coming months/black friday.

mickyflinn · 3 Oct 2022 at 12:16

I would get a b550 motherboard with pcie4 should see you solid if you go for a 5600, etc in the future . You could pick up a b450 also as a cheaper option which is pcie3.

Milana · 3 Oct 2022 at 12:30

broona said:
My son currently has the following spec PC :-

AMD Ryzen 5 3600
Nvidia 3070
Noctua NH-U12S SE-AM4 CPU Cooler
Gigabyte GA-AB350-GAMING 3
Corsair Vengeance 16GB 3200Mhz
Samsung 970 Evo Plus 500 GB
2tb Corsair MX500
Corsair RM750i
Gamemax F15M

We appear to have bricked his motherboard whilst activating secure boot to play stupid FIFA 23...

I'm toying with the idea of either a replacement motherboard, or a replacement motherboard and a new CPU whilst we've got it all in bits.

I'm thinking either 5600x or 12100/12400F, then just reuse his existing RAM and GPU, and hopefully his cooler if I can get Intel fittings for the AM4 only version?

Any recommendations please? Thanks.

If the thing is to use old cooler, all AM4 and AM5 CPU will be fit. Ryzen 5 5600X is AM4, but it's not much better then R5 3600.

I recommend to replace mobo only

broona · 3 Oct 2022 at 12:46

Thanks for the replies. He's playing on a Hisense R43B7120 TV, so generally aiming for 4k 60fps, as it's only a 60hz TV.

He plays a lot of FPS, Doom, CS:GO, mostly reasonably recent shooters.

mickyflinn · 3 Oct 2022 at 12:51

broona said:
Thanks for the replies. He's playing on a Hisense R43B7120 TV, so generally aiming for 4k 60fps, as it's only a 60hz TV.

He plays a lot of FPS, Doom, CS:GO, mostly reasonably recent shooters.

4k gaming is mainly gpu bound so the 3600 will be fine , as i mentioned above a b550 would give you additional features if you upgrade .

How Much CPU Does the GeForce RTX 3080 Need?

Breaking the bottleneck

www.tomshardware.com

Zenduri · 3 Oct 2022 at 12:55

broona said:
My son currently has the following spec PC :-

AMD Ryzen 5 3600
Nvidia 3070
Noctua NH-U12S SE-AM4 CPU Cooler
Gigabyte GA-AB350-GAMING 3
Corsair Vengeance 16GB 3200Mhz
Samsung 970 Evo Plus 500 GB
2tb Corsair MX500
Corsair RM750i
Gamemax F15M

We appear to have bricked his motherboard whilst activating secure boot to play stupid FIFA 23...

I'm toying with the idea of either a replacement motherboard, or a replacement motherboard and a new CPU whilst we've got it all in bits.

I'm thinking either 5600x or 12100/12400F, then just reuse his existing RAM and GPU, and hopefully his cooler if I can get Intel fittings for the AM4 only version?

Any recommendations please? Thanks.

In what way have you bricked the motherboard when trying to enable secure boot?

mickyflinn · 3 Oct 2022 at 13:02

Zenduri said:
In what way have you bricked the motherboard when trying to enable secure boot?

Oops missed that about secure boot wonder if you reseting the cmos would help.

Milana · 3 Oct 2022 at 13:03

mickyflinn said:
4k gaming is mainly gpu bound so the 3600 will be fine , as i mentioned above a b550 would give you additional features if you upgrade .

How Much CPU Does the GeForce RTX 3080 Need?

Breaking the bottleneck

www.tomshardware.com

Maybe it's better to wait for a while and then buy Motherboard with DDR5 support? Not sure they need PCI-E4 features

broona · 3 Oct 2022 at 13:09

Zenduri said:
In what way have you bricked the motherboard when trying to enable secure boot?

mickyflinn said:
Oops missed that about secure boot wonder if you reseting the cmos would help.

I've literally tried everything, I asked a question in motherboards on here too, but whatever I do, I just get the 4 flashing red LEDs and no boot.

MissChief · 3 Oct 2022 at 13:12

As above, pick up a B550 and stick with what you have. If you’re committed to an upgrade, B550 and a 5800X3D.

Zenduri · 3 Oct 2022 at 13:13

broona said:
I've literally tried everything, I asked a question in motherboards on here too, but whatever I do, I just get the 4 flashing red LEDs and no boot.

Can you get into the bios at all or is it just blank screen and flash leds?

Zenduri · 3 Oct 2022 at 13:14

MissChief said:
As above, pick up a B550 and stick with what you have. If you’re committed to an upgrade, B550 and a 5800X3D.

@broona
This, if the motherboard isnt recoverable then a b550 board and 5800x3d should see you good

broona · 3 Oct 2022 at 15:09

Zenduri said:
Can you get into the bios at all or is it just blank screen and flash leds?

No BIOS screen, just the LEDs unfortunately.

mickyflinn · 3 Oct 2022 at 15:19

broona said:
No BIOS screen, just the LEDs unfortunately.

Mite be worth changing your wanted thread to include b450/x470 in the title.

Haz123 · 3 Oct 2022 at 15:27

It will make almost no difference what cpu you have when playing with a 3070 on 4k 60hz screen so just replace the mobo for as little money as possible. If you cannot get a well priced B450/X470 then a cheapish B550 will give you good upgrade options for the future.

Zenduri · 3 Oct 2022 at 15:37

nevermind, edited as didnt realise OP was gaming at 4k. Under 4k there is 100% a difference but at 4k not so much

broona · 3 Oct 2022 at 20:57

Thanks for all the replies, think I'll just go B450/B550 for now, and possibly stick a 5xxx CPU in there if we swap out his TV for a higher hertz monitor down the line.

broona · 10 Oct 2022 at 03:19

And as usual, I've gone against everyone's excellent advice! :rolleyes:

Sitting bored on my break on nightshift and I've just ordered a 5700X and a MSI B550-A PRO, oops, lol!