Upgrade or not

dazzyboy10 · 1 Jan 2018 at 13:24

Hey guys and Happy New Year to all. Needing some advice on current set up and whether to change or not. Current specs: Strix x99 mobo, i7 6800k cpu, 16gb RAM, gtx 1070 founders edition gfx card, corsair 1200w psu. I've been having trouble with playing games like AC Syndicate and ME Andromeda on any settings above medium @ 1080p and not sure whether it's just the specs of my system or there's something restricting it. Even using GeForce Experience for optimal settings sets the games on high @1440p and is just unplayable. Is it worth me upgrading, baring in mind the only budget id have is from selling my current parts, and on working out, would be around £700 for mobo, CPU and gfx card (based on current ebay listings for used parts) or is it worth investigating or does it sound right for my specs. I was playing ac syndicate at end of 2016 on a phantom 970, z97 g1 mobo and i7 4770k on high settings with no problems at all. Doesnt make sense to me.

pastymuncher · 1 Jan 2018 at 13:40

There is no way that a pc of that spec should be struggling at 1080p or even 1440p come to that. Something is clearly wrong and upgrading would be a sidegrade or even a downgrade in some cases. What are your temps like? Have you tried running afterburner with the onscreen display enabled to monitor temps and clocks to rule out throttling of any kind? Is the 6800k overclocked? How old is the Windows install? Sometimes a clean install can fix a lot of problems.

dazzyboy10 · 1 Jan 2018 at 13:49

I'll dl afterburner and check. Cpu isn't overclocked and the install is only 3 days old after other problems I had

David Bisset · 1 Jan 2018 at 14:03

Don't use GeForce experience to set 'optimal' settings.... they're terrible :/ just set it up yourself. But as said, something is wrong so investigate that don't just replace.

dazzyboy10 · 1 Jan 2018 at 16:05

Test: currently running me andromeda on 2560x1440 @ 25Hz and getting 9fps and temps are sound 40c on high settings. Also tested 1920x1080 @ 59.94Hz and got 15fps and temps around 41c. Does the res on my screen have any effect on this as currently using my 65" 4k tv and res is sitting at 4096x2160 @ 30Hz

BongoHunter · 1 Jan 2018 at 16:16

Those temps can't be your GPU surely? I think thermal throttling of the GPU could be a likely source for this issue, does your GPU have good clean airflow? What case do you have? Fans not full of fluff or something like that?

dazzyboy10 · 1 Jan 2018 at 16:16

Even testing on 1920x1080 on medium settings (auto 900p) is only giving me 19fps.

dazzyboy10 · 1 Jan 2018 at 16:18

BongoHunter said:
Those temps can't be your GPU surely? I think thermal throttling of the GPU could be a likely source for this issue, does your GPU have good clean airflow? What case do you have? Fans not full of fluff or something like that?

It's the readings I'm getting from afterburner. Case has clean airflow with 5 fans in push-pull. Case is phanteks enthoo luxe

dazzyboy10 · 1 Jan 2018 at 16:29

My system is watercooled aswell

pastymuncher · 1 Jan 2018 at 18:40

What about clockspeeds? Are the cpu and gpu boosting under load? You can toggle thes in Afterburners OSD. Do you have the latest drivers installed?

dazzyboy10 · 1 Jan 2018 at 18:43

Ok well I've been playing solid for last hour on 1080p on high settings and afterburner is reporting 36c gpu temp 100% load and 15fps. Suites that sound right or not

dazzyboy10 · 1 Jan 2018 at 18:49

Which settings would they be on afterburner

pastymuncher · 1 Jan 2018 at 18:52

Very not right. It should be giving you a hell of a lot more than 15fps at 1080p.

Fire up Afterburner and click on settings then monitoring. Run down the list and put a tick next to what you want to see in the OSD then click OK.

dazzyboy10 · 1 Jan 2018 at 19:02

BongoHunter · 1 Jan 2018 at 19:06

GPU should be more than 139mhz, should be 1500+

dazzyboy10 · 1 Jan 2018 at 19:09

What does that mean then?

Tupro · 1 Jan 2018 at 19:10

Looks like some issue with the GPU there, as bongo said it should be 1500+

seems like a fault graphics card

EDIT : a quick google search found this
"Due to how the technology is handled, Nvidia's Founders Edition cards idle at 139 MHz"

which suggests your card is idle

i would remove the card and reseat it to ensure its in place correctly if possible... then remove all drivers for it, reboot and reinstall fresh ones

dazzyboy10 · 1 Jan 2018 at 19:15

I selected core clock in the settings which i assume was right

Tupro · 1 Jan 2018 at 19:22

another thing to try, probably before the other stuff is go into nvidia control panel > manage 3d settings > global settings then scroll down to "power management mode" and change it to adaptive and hit apply

best thing to do is google the issue with it being stuck in idle at 139mhz and try the various solutions out there until one works for you...

definitely nothing wrong with the spec of that pc, should last years yet

dazzyboy10 · 1 Jan 2018 at 19:39

Thanks for that. I'll give it a try and see what happens and post back