Upgrade path from Rift S

Charging it now, (another annoyance) going to give it another try
We can see that you've obviously put a great deal of effort in to making the Quest 2 more comfortable, and if the pro isn't worth it, you may as well stick with the
Rift S.
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Yep. I currently own/use a Rift S and have bought a Pico 4 twice. The 1st was on the day of launch, the 2nd was because I'd been convinced online that all was now good.
Both were returned for a refund. Neither had any defects.

It's worth bearing in mind that the only use case for myself is flight sims, primarily DCS and then FS2020.

The Pico 4 is certainly a good improvement in visuals (at least IMO).
However:
- I really disliked the facial interface, which I found to be uncomfortable
- On the second I was trying to get DCS running using OpenXR via Virtual Desktop over USB-C. After around 6 hours I did finally get it to work. Next day, nope, just wouldn't work regardless of what I did and trying to use VD via USB cable resulted in BSOD
So from a hardware perspective, I thought the Pico was a good device, as the facial interface would be a fairly easy fix.
However, their software is just not there yet.

Me, I'm currently saving for a Meta Quest Pro.
There's a real mixture of reviews on the rain forest. Some glowing some really negative, I had one in my basket last night but now I'm thinking I should wait for the quest 3. I was even toying with the idea of the quest pro seeing as thats had a nice price cut and I was looking at buying a good used one but still unsure. I've been using my sons quest 2 all day yesterday and while my opinion of it has improved I really don't like having to unplug it to recharge it, wireless is ok but I can see compression artifacts slightly, even plugged in the bitrate feels lower than my Rift S due to the DP port instead of usb.
 
You have a rift s currently?

What's your budget ?

In order

Meta quest pro
Pico 3 /4 (I have a 4)
HP reverb g2 ?
I have rift S
No budget but don't want to spend crazy amounts.
I've looked at the Pico 4 and I keep flipping yes/no but a pro is that it's cheap.
HP reverb, since reading about pancake lenses anything without is out
I could get a Meta quest pro from the bay for about 770 but then I wonder is that a lot to spend when the quest 3 make come out in several months and be cheaper and possibly better
Since you have a Quest 2 already, why don't you try the following.

When you connect it to your computer, what resolution and refresh rate do you set in the Oculus app?

Have you changed the Encode bitrate in the Oculus Debug tool?

Depending on what you set those to, it makes a massive difference to the visual quality of PCVR games.

As for comfort, I presume you are using the stock strap? The problem with the stock strap and the basic Elite strap, is that the headsets slips down on your face because the weight is all at the front. What people then do is tighten the side straps as much as possible to stop the headset sliding down. This gets very uncomfortable, and sometimes painful. after a while. The trick is to get the top strap right, so that it's holding all the weight and tighten the side straps just enough to hold the headset in place. However, this doesn't work for a lot of people. So, the easiest thing is to attach a counterweight to the back to the strap. Something around 200g, like a power bank or battery or a phone. This stops the headset sliding forward and that means you don't overtighten the side straps, which is a much more comfortable experience.


With your GPU, the Quest 2 should look way better than the Rift S in most PCVR games. If you set it up correctly, with the proper settings in the debug tool and close to native resolution in the Oculus app, it should be big improvement over the stock settings.

For testing the comfort, try the counterweight. And if you think the comfort is ok and the visuals are better, you might consider buying a second hand Quest 2. If you do, you can purchase a custom headstrap like the Bobo M2 VR and that should make it a lot more comfortable as well as adding some extra battery life.
Thanks, I'll look into the debug tool, though I'm just borrowing the Quest 2.
 
I understood that. It doesn't matter, the changes are only going to be on your computer.

As for the comfort, you are only temporary trying out a counterweight to see does this improve it for you.

When you get the Quest 2, ask here and I will tell you what to change in the debug tool and the Oculus app.
I've had the quest 2 for a few days as my son doesn't need it right now, I just played with the debug tool, upped bitrate to 350 and got lots of lag which is strange
 
@Klunt Bumskrint have you unticked the air link box, probably teaching you to suck eggs but it was a thought :)
I've actually got it working nicely with the Airplay instead, via usb was being a pain which is a bit odd. I'm just in the situation now where I absolutely don't need a new headset but I really want one which is a confusing feeling. :confused: I had the same feeling with the Mini 3 Pro and I bought that!
 
I'd offer £725, meet them in the middle. What's their feedback like? Is it a decently high number and all positive? Examine it in detail. I know you're being warned off on here but remember with Ebay you get a guarantee that the item is as described. If it's not new, if it has been opened, if there is any fault, I also think you'll be covered of it's banned by Meta or something, you get your money back.

Ebay nearly always sides with the buyer in a dispute. They even refund you themselves if the buyer refuses to refund you, they then chase it up with the buyer to get the money. £225 saving on new is decent. Quest Pro looks good especially now local dimming is working, only thing that would make me hesitate is that the Quest 3 will likely be out in the Autumn, it'll be cheaper and possibly have some better specs, but YOLO etc, you can say "wait for x" forever and never buy anything.
Local dimming has pushed me, offered 725, doesn't have much feedback and said that it was an extravagant gift from his uncle. Either way the bay hates sellers so I think I'll be alright, worth the risk of the hassle if it is nicked.
 
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