Upgrade path from rx570 8Gb

[JollyJamma]

Solid choice, or get a 5700X like me if you can find one cheap and want the extra cores. I don't need them myself but I couldn't say no for the price.

I'd also suggest OP get the 5700X because modern consoles run 8 cores 16 threads which means game devs will build modern games around those specs for the next few years.

It always helps to run the most common gaming hardware just because it's supported for a lot longer.

 

[TrojanWhore]

I'm going to check out the PSU today and see what model it is, I'll report back
Any thoughts on the gtx4060? I can see them going for around £299?
Only checking them as use 40w less than my current card.

I'd personally side with Micky on this one, as I couldn't stomach buying an 8GB card now, especially with 1440p in mind.
It's already been shown to be a significant factor in some games and I can only see that becoming more common.

I had a look in to the power draw and if that is something that is really important to you, then it'd be worth consideration, as according to techpowerup the 6700xt uses around 100w more. I would take these numbers with a pinch of salt though, as some of them definitely seem a bit illogical - e.g. they've listed the Max power draw for the 4060 as 18w LESS than the average gaming power draw :/
That said though, the cost of electric is coming down from the scary levels we had over the last year, so how much of a factor this is depends on how many hours you spend gaming.

 

[Tetras]

I'm going to check out the PSU today and see what model it is, I'll report back
Any thoughts on the gtx4060? I can see them going for around £299?
Only checking them as use 40w less than my current card.

Can you clarify exactly what you're expecting from the new card and what games you want to play?

The reason I'm asking that is because both of the cards you have suggested are intended for 1080p and I don't know if it is because your expectations aren't very high (e.g. mainly playing older games, 60 fps), or if you're just underestimating how demanding 1440p is for newer games?

 

[mr.bond]

Thanks again all, expectations aren't massive, I mainly game on the PS5 nowadays and don't upgrade the PC anywhere near as much as I used to say 15 years and more back.
Would be nice to game 1440p on semi-recent games, like both new dooms etc, I tend not to get AAA for the PC now as I can run them on the console. E.g. I use the PS5 for the new resident evils etc

Just to add, I don't need full eye candy, turned on, nor bothered with any ray tracing

 

[Tetras]

Thanks again all, expectations aren't massive, I mainly game on the PS5 nowadays and don't upgrade the PC anywhere near as much as I used to say 15 years and more back.
Would be nice to game 1440p on semi-recent games, like both new dooms etc, I tend not to get AAA for the PC now as I can run them on the console. E.g. I use the PS5 for the new resident evils etc

Just to add, I don't need full eye candy, turned on, nor bothered with any ray tracing

Ahh, then I can see why you're looking at the 6650/4060. My concern was that you were going to buy one, load up a AAA game and think "wow, crap! I have to use medium and upscaling already and this is brand new". If you look at the average FPS chart on this page of TPU's 4060 review, you can see my concern (admittedly these are the highest details and native 1440p):

Just over 60 fps:
AC: Valhalla
Dying Light 2
Elden Ring
God of War
Resident Evil 4

Under 60 fps:
A Plague Tale
Atomic Heart
Cyberpunk 2077
Dead Space
RDR2
The Calisto Protocol
Watch Dogs: Legion

Closer to 30 fps:
The Last of Us Part 1
Hogwarts Legacy
Jedi Survivor

 

[mr.bond]

Thank you that's very helpful, much appreciated. Wife confirms some purchases are cleared as well!!

 

[mr.bond]

I was a little out in the PSU, it's an XFX XT500.
Just checked how much I should be pulling (using be quiet calc) and it advises 249w, sound about right?

 

[Removed User 345456]

what model is your xfx psu?
xfx used seasonic as their OEM (ie top-of-the range)
i wouldn't be so quick to swap it out if the voltages under load are fine

That's badass I didn't know that! My NZXT C850 is a Seasonic in a dress too! Build quality/feature set is

 

[mickyflinn]

That's badass I didn't know that! My NZXT C850 is a Seasonic in a dress too! Build quality/feature set is

Seasonic design and also outsource cheaper budget power supplies , hence the op xfx xt designed by seasonic for xfx but outsourced, it's still a budget unit with low end components.

 

[Removed User 345456]

Seasonic design and also outsource cheaper budget power supplies , hence the op xfx xt designed by seasonic for xfx but outsourced, it's still a budget unit with low end components.

Ah fair enough. My NZXT is fairly decent guts so I'm told?

 

[mickyflinn]

Ah fair enough. My NZXT is fairly decent guts so I'm told?

It is so no worries there.

That's why the gold rated , 7 to10 year warranty is a good standard when speccing.

But budget units have ther place.

 

[JollyJamma]

Ah fair enough. My NZXT is fairly decent guts so I'm told?

Stop saying “brand X is top of the range”.

It’s not. All of them make between poor and high end products. You could buy a Seasonic and get an absolute potato of a PSU.

Seasonic have just spent more on marketing of late and that’s what you’re seeing.

There’s a huge difference between a Seasonic PSU with a 1 year warranty and their Titanium models with a 10 year warranty.

 

[tamzzy]

I was a little out in the PSU, it's an XFX XT500.
Just checked how much I should be pulling (using be quiet calc) and it advises 249w, sound about right?

ah yea unfortunately that is/was an outsourced seasonic design that used cheaper components internally
personally if the voltages under load are fine (ie minimal drops), i would happily use it in a lower power build, but many here would probably disagree with my views

 

[JollyJamma]

ah yea unfortunately that is/was an outsourced seasonic design that used cheaper components internally
personally if the voltages under load are fine (ie minimal drops), i would happily use it in a lower power build, but many here would probably disagree with my views

I would agree that a basic system would probably be fine with an OK PSU but I wouldn’t get clever with overclocking

I’d probably get a better psu anyway for my personal system as you can go cheap now and need to replace the poor quality psu when you want to upgrade in a few years time, or you could just do it properly the first time.

I run an SF750 watt psu which I’ll carry over to many more builds and was very well priced when I got it (£99 if I recall).

 

[Removed User 345456]

Stop saying “brand X is top of the range”.

It’s not. All of them make between poor and high end products. You could buy a Seasonic and get an absolute potato of a PSU.

Seasonic have just spent more on marketing of late and that’s what you’re seeing.

There’s a huge difference between a Seasonic PSU with a 1 year warranty and their Titanium models with a 10 year warranty.

I know that hence buying mine with a 10 year warranty, knowing what model Seasonic it was under the dress, it's just nice to hear from other people that I made the right choice... So you clearly misunderstood what I was saying.

 

[JollyJamma]

I know that hence buying mine with a 10 year warranty, knowing what model Seasonic it was under the dress, it's just nice to hear from other people that I made the right choice... So you clearly misunderstood what I was saying.

Go read your replies again. My point is that you said the below sweeping comment about a brand which even Mickyflinn corrected you on (1 below that) and is a statement that basically says "Seasonic = good". There's no indication in your replies that you were stating that each brand has various models that are built to various quality standards and congratulations, you have a PSU with a 10 year warranty, that doesn't clarify any of your statements at all. If I was new to PC building and read your sentences, I promise you now that I'd think that Seasonic only make good PSUs when they obviously make some that are OK and they may make a mistake in one design and it might catch fire (like Gigabyte did recently with the Gamers Nexus investigation), you never know.

That's badass I didn't know that! My NZXT C850 is a Seasonic in a dress too! Build quality/feature set is

Seasonic design and also outsource cheaper budget power supplies , hence the op xfx xt designed by seasonic for xfx but outsourced, it's still a budget unit with low end components.

 

[jigger]

ah yea unfortunately that is/was an outsourced seasonic design that used cheaper components internally
personally if the voltages under load are fine (ie minimal drops), i would happily use it in a lower power build, but many here would probably disagree with my views

I’ve have 3 XFX KM2 Seasonic PSU’s that are now older than I remember. These happily output more than they are rated for and have outlasted ever other make by some time.

I have a forth de-dusted, cleaned and waiting to go into a Threadripper 7000 workstation build.

 

[Removed User 345456]

Go read your replies again. My point is that you said the below sweeping comment about a brand which even Mickyflinn corrected you on (1 below that) and is a statement that basically says "Seasonic = good". There's no indication in your replies that you were stating that each brand has various models that are built to various quality standards and congratulations, you have a PSU with a 10 year warranty, that doesn't clarify any of your statements at all. If I was new to PC building and read your sentences, I promise you now that I'd think that Seasonic only make good PSUs when they obviously make some that are OK and they may make a mistake in one design and it might catch fire (like Gigabyte did recently with the Gamers Nexus investigation), you never know.

My point was it's good that seasonic make budget stuff too as usually when someone makes stella quality parts it trickles down to even the budget models over time, which is true in loads of things, high tier stuff eventually becomes the norm, that is true. I wasn't in anyway saying every single one is good.
I also as you quoted made a point of saying my C850 is good due to what model it really is underneath, i.e. a tried and tested decent 80plus gold 10 year warranty Seasonic in an NZXT dress.

Love the way you try and tell me what I meant though, I know what I meant, as I said it... If I didn't, I wouldn't correct you, now twice. Not gonna debate this anymore.