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Upgrading a 2600k at 5ghz? With what?

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My 2600k has been running at 5ghz since 2011! I couldn't believe it when I search for the invoices in my email.

I use two machines:
+ One big workstation (hackintosh) for Mac development, photo editing etc etc. This is currently the 2600k with 32GB.
+ One big(ger!) workstation (linux) for embedded/linux build. This one is a 5930K with 64GB. Barely overclocked.

I never felt the 5930K was anywhere as fast as the 2600k, despite the extra cores, even for building. It's still a good machine but I never felt it was 'screaming' fast.

Now, I'm pondering retiring the 2600K, use the 5930K machine as workstation, and building a new, bigass chassis/mobo/cpu etc.

I'm thinking Threadripper or a bigger Ryzen -- does that make sense? Any suggestion for my use pattern?
 
I have an i7 2700k @4.5GHz that i have off the lan for a few months now. I will be replacing it with my third Ryzen system with a 12 core. My systems are used accessing clients' data but i do game on them.

Even my first gen R5 1600 that i upgraded from one of my Phenom system is faster than it. I think i'll stick to Asus motherboards.
 
BusError said:
I never felt the 5930K was anywhere as fast as the 2600k, despite the extra cores, even for building. It's still a good machine but I never felt it was 'screaming' fast.

Now, I'm pondering retiring the 2600K, use the 5930K machine as workstation, and building a new, bigass chassis/mobo/cpu etc.

I'm thinking Threadripper or a bigger Ryzen -- does that make sense? Any suggestion for my use pattern?
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The 2600K probably felt faster than the 5930K for photo editing because it was! ;) Photo-editing and quite a few other tasks are mainly single threaded so higher Mhz/IPC rather than amount of cores will make the difference. So that 5Ghz of the 2600K will be quite a bit faster than the 3.7Ghz of the 5930k, even with the new architecture.

For you I would go for the highest clocked 4.6Ghz 12 core Ryzen 9 3900X. That way you get the best of both worlds. ;)
 
MaXxBoulton said:
thats for a specific market, AMD said its not for gaming or your general users. gaming type performance will be better on the 3600 to 3800 chips
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No they didn’t...stop posting nonsense...

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Marine-RX179 said:
I do wonder though would the extra 4 cores 8 threads actually impact on the overclocking negatively, and not can't overclock as high as the 8 cores 16 threads parts...
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Im no expect but I thought the 3600/3700 etc would be better in gaming due to having one ccx vs two ccx; further reduced latency.
 
I'm in a similar boat with a 2011-vintage 2600k Sandy Bridge. I actually remember having to return my mobo for a replacement after the infamous SATA bug.

I'm looking to upgrade too but now seems to be the worst possible time. I'm going to wait for three things. First the Ryzen 3 launch, second what it does to Intel prices and lastly Ice Lake as, should I decide to stick with Intel, it seems stupid not waiting for PCIe 4.0
 
Vertigo1 said:
I'm in a similar boat with a 2011-vintage 2600k Sandy Bridge. I actually remember having to return my mobo for a replacement after the infamous SATA bug.

I'm looking to upgrade too but now seems to be the worst possible time. I'm going to wait for three things. First the Ryzen 3 launch, second what it does to Intel prices and lastly Ice Lake as, should I decide to stick with Intel, it seems stupid not waiting for PCIe 4.0
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Ice Lake is initially only going to be mobile cpu's, so don't get excited about them as we won't be seeing them in the desktop until next year at least.

If you want to upgrade this year then Zen2 is probably the most sensible direction to go in. I doubt Intel are going to significantly alter their prices.
 
Marine-RX179 said:
I do wonder though would the extra 4 cores 8 threads actually impact on the overclocking negatively, and not can't overclock as high as the 8 cores 16 threads parts...
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As extra cores come at different chiplet there shouldn't be any big extra heat concentration.
Having six active cores per chiplet would actually make heat production per piece of silicon lower.
Also all cores of chiplet don't have to be high clocking, because worst cores are disabled.


greatash said:
Im no expect but I thought the 3600/3700 etc would be better in gaming due to having one ccx vs two ccx; further reduced latency.
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Inter core latency would be lower, but on other hand it's open what kind effect that doubled L3 cache is going to have.
Even if half of L3 is in other chiplet, latency should be still good amount lower than to RAM.
 
Marine-RX179 said:
I do wonder though would the extra 4 cores 8 threads actually impact on the overclocking negatively, and not can't overclock as high as the 8 cores 16 threads parts...
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Given the 3900X boosts highest it doesn't seem to be an issue.

I agree with the above thoughts about a single CCX chip possibly being optimal though.
 
andy_mk3 said:
The 16c has been pretty much confirmed for some time now for Ryzen. But no official work from AMD about it.
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yes but there holding it back for some reason? probably keeping it in the pocket for an intel move then they can launch it? also see there using the same chiplets for the epic stuff so maybe waiting for better yields?
they said however then clocks will not as high and it more focused on other areas then just a gaming chip
 
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