Upgrading a Mac Mini

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I'm planning to buy a Mac Mini, and I've been waiting to see what the new systems would bring. To be honest I'm a little underwhelmed, especially with the power/price ratio, so I'm going to be doing some upgrading when I get it. The machine's mainly going to be used for graphics and photography work - large, high res files. It needs to be portable, hence the Mini, and I'm trying to keep it cheaper and (hopefully significantly) faster than the low-end MacBooks.

Problem is, I'm not up to date on Intel's current offerings, or on the Mini's (current or previous) compatibility. I also understand heat dissipation will be an issue.

I'm budgeting about £650, less if I can, but I'm taking into account what I can sell the parts that I don't need for. Hard drive is going to be a Seagate Momentus 7200.4 500GB, which comes in at about £100, fastest on the market as far as I know. RAM will be as much as the machine and my budget can handle. Processor I'm thinking about £150-200, depending on whether the one that comes with the machine is worth anything on eBay; like I said, I don't really know what's out there at that price point.

My question is this: which Mini (current gen or last gen) and what do I put inside it?

Obviously last generation's machine would be cheaper, leaving much more cash for upgrades. RAM for that set up is cheaper, too, but it only handles a max of 3GB. There's also the fact it's been out for a while, so I guess some people know what the hardware is compatible with. I don't know what the board can handle, though, and how much of a real-world limitation the graphics processor would be. Advice is greatly appreciated on this.

New machine has the obvious advantages of better graphics and newer chipset, obviously, but since I'm pulling out most of the rest of the guts, would it really be worth the money? On the other hand, the newer RAM and processor should fetch a bit more on eBay to make up for it. When am I likely to find out what the board is and what it's compatible with? Any educated guesses?

Thanks very much in advance, everyone.
 
Go to your friendly local auction site and buy a last gen Macbook. Get yourself a 2.4Ghz from there and then drop the memory and hard drive of choice in. Much simpler and neater and probably cheaper as well.
 
Thanks for the quick replies, guys. J1nxy, I have been keeping an eye on eBay for MacBooks, and it's an option I'll keep in mind if this doesn't pan out, but the going rate seems to be about £600 or so - add to that the RAM and HD and I was thinking I might get a cheaper and faster machine with the Mini.

A potentially stupid question, but where would I find this member's market? I can't see anything on the index page...
 
Thanks for the quick replies, guys. J1nxy, I have been keeping an eye on eBay for MacBooks, and it's an option I'll keep in mind if this doesn't pan out, but the going rate seems to be about £600 or so - add to that the RAM and HD and I was thinking I might get a cheaper and faster machine with the Mini.

A potentially stupid question, but where would I find this member's market? I can't see anything on the index page...

Ah, gutted, you've only got 2 posts! You need 250 to see the MM, and a certain length of membership.
 
its mine thats in the MM the 2.33GHz c2d is the fastest that you can get on the old platform. and like you said your limited to 3gb of ram. Both of these factors mean that its never going to be significantly faster than the lower spec macbooks like you are after (well 0.33Ghz isnt hugley significant)

If you need that much power then you probably need to buy a new one. as far as upgrading things goes, there are loads of guides knocking around youtube, unless something has seriously changed with the new gen its not too difficult.

If you want a chat about it send me an email to blue DOT forums AT gmail DOT com
 
you can buy the cheapest core duo solo and upgrade it (£175 ish),,, hard drive £50 cpu £100 or under a 2gig c2duo can be had for £60 ish just make sure you get a socket m 667 as the dell xps socket m has 800fsb wont boot, ram on here at ocuk £35 ad superdrive but most either have it or have already been added.

it takes about 10 mins to upgrade the ram and cpu in a mac mini harddrive slightly longer just because its in the carrier ofr the super drive/hard drive lift out cage

all very easy just the same as a pc really.
 
A "putty knife" is generally the tool of choice, for entering the Mac Mini.
 
Oh well, looks like anyone with plans to upgrade a new mini (myself included) is going to be disappointed: the processor is soldered in place. Apparently it won't run properly with >4GB RAM either, even though the chipset should support it, which is another nail in the coffin for a powerhouse Mac Mini.
 
It looks like Apple dropped the ball big time this time around and it's going to backfire badly. It's like a desperate attempt to iron out few holes and gaps in their strategy - so for example it looks like they are trying to discourage punters from buying £379 mac mini, add aftermarket monitor, upgrade spec and effectively get equivalent of £1300 24" iMac for under £700, but today's mac community is not the same bunch of single mouse button clicking fangirl numpties it once was - any tech savvy person knows the chipsets used in today's mac are all over the market and by design they support more memory, so those limits - in new mini and new base line mac pro - are basically engineered to force you into more expensive machines after a while. And that's just dirty. Add the fact they want considerably more money for no better (and in quite a few new designes - like the single cpu mac pro - actually worse) spec and speed than previous generation and it just leaves such a bad taste in mouth. Whatever next - predesigned failure after 3 years?

And to do that when they actually start getting after market competition from places like EFiX and PearC selling 100% working clones for fraction of the crazy prices...
 
And to do that when they actually start getting after market competition from places like EFiX and PearC selling 100% working clones for fraction of the crazy prices...

As soon as that happens they'll find a way to shut them down.
 
As soon as that happens they'll find a way to shut them down.

Looks like EFiX is trading for over a year now, in US, without much legal problems, so perhaps it's not that easy for Apple to prevent "accidental 100% hardware compatibilities" once they entered Intel market. Recently they changed retailers, because previous one was selling clones advertised as Apple Clones with OSX installed, which of course would be illegal from software EULA point of view...
 
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But have you seen how expensive the little box of tricks is? £150 a shot, by the time you've bought that and the OSX license your virtually at the proper mac price.
 
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