Upgrading an aging FX6300 system for gaming.

AnthonyDublin · 18 Feb 2018 at 15:15

Hi lads.
I've an FX 6300 (@4.3) based system in the house which is desperately in need of an upgrade. It's housed in a modified Antec 900 case with an RX 480, 2 SSD's and a Corsair cx750m PSU. It's really showing it's age now in games, so I want to grab an Intel CPU, MB and DDR4 ram to match up with the RX.
I play FPS games and Sports titles (got the demo of Fifa 18 and it ran like a dog. COD WW2 is also headache inducing at 1080p).

Seen a great deal that matches my current budget (new baby, max €450). I just want to know if the improvements I see will be worth it.

ASUS H110M-A/M.2
Core i5 7600
16GB 2133Mhz DDR4 RAM

Comes in at €450 delivered.

Thanks in advance.

bakes0310 · 18 Feb 2018 at 15:27

Ryzen might be more suited to that budget, some more knowledgeable will be along shortly to spec you something.

AnthonyDublin · 19 Feb 2018 at 11:25

Thanks.
Why would you say Ryzen though? It's for gaming only, no video editing etc...

Everything I've seen over the past few years shows the intel chips beating AMD when it comes to gaming.

orbitalwalsh · 19 Feb 2018 at 12:43

AnthonyDublin said:
Thanks.
Why would you say Ryzen though? It's for gaming only, no video editing etc...

Everything I've seen over the past few years shows the intel chips beating AMD when it comes to gaming.

My basket at Overclockers UK:

1 x AMD Ryzen 5 Six Core 1600 3.60GHz (Socket AM4) Processor - Retail= £158.99
1 x Gigabyte GA-AB350-Gaming 3 AMD B350 (Socket AM4) DDR4 ATX Motherboard= £86.99
1 x Team Group Vulcan T-Force 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 PC4-24000C16 3000MHz Dual Channel Kit - Grey (TLGD416G30= £188.99

Total: £445.47 (includes shipping: £10.50)

or

My basket at Overclockers UK:

1 x Gigabyte Z370-HD3 Intel Z370 (Socket 1151) DDR4 ATX Motherboard= £109.99
1 x Team Group Vulcan T-Force 8GB (2x4GB) DDR4 PC4-25600C16 3200MHz Dual Channel Kit - Black/Grey (TLGD4= £99.95
1 x Intel Core i5-8400 2.8GHz (Coffee Lake) Socket LGA1151 Processor - Retail= £179.99
1 x be quiet! Pure Rock Slim CPU Cooler= £24.95

Total: £425.38 (includes shipping: £10.50)

if ryzen too much then ditch the 16gb for 8GB. Plenty of videos to show how much ryzen mashes FX chips, could even go ryzen 1400 or 2400G chip!

intel, added the cooler as intel stock ones are just aweful compared to stock amd ones.
all 6 cores boost to 3.8ghz and 2 cores 4.3ghz . Still edges out ryzen with gaming at 1080p due to better IPC design

AnthonyDublin · 19 Feb 2018 at 14:55

The first basket comes in at over €500, the 2nd one is €480 and I end up with less for my money than the deal I found?

orbitalwalsh · 19 Feb 2018 at 15:13

AnthonyDublin said:
The first basket comes in at over €500, the 2nd one is €480 and I end up with less for my money than the deal I found?

as i said, drop to 8GB to save cash

My basket at Overclockers UK:

1 x AMD Ryzen 5 Six Core 1600 3.60GHz (Socket AM4) Processor - Retail= £158.99
1 x Gigabyte GA-AB350-Gaming 3 AMD B350 (Socket AM4) DDR4 ATX Motherboard= £86.99
1 x Team Group Dark Pro 8GB (2x4GB) DDR4 PC4-24000C15 3000MHz Dual Channel Kit - Black/Red (TDPRD48G3000= £98.99

Total: £355.47 (includes shipping: £10.50)

£390 and rivals older i5 7600k chip as competes well with intels current coffee lake 6 core chips

and with the intel, for extra 30 Euro, Your getting 2 extra cores, so 6 Cores running at 4.3Ghz vs i5 7600 4 cores running 4.1Ghz ... whilst theres is little difference between 3000/3200 for gaming- is a a good 5-6 fps jump min from the 2133hz listed- i bet the CL timing isn't great either

Saffy · 19 Feb 2018 at 19:01

You're best off going with one of the suggested CPUs as they will provide greater longevity than the 4 core 4 thread i5 7600, which may be cheaper today but it will struggle in the long run.

AnthonyDublin · 23 Feb 2018 at 18:58

Saffy said:
You're best off going with one of the suggested CPUs as they will provide greater longevity than the 4 core 4 thread i5 7600, which may be cheaper today but it will struggle in the long run.

I'm conflicted now.
The i5 has been the go to chip for gaming for so long... Always coming out on top. Now I'm being told Ryzen is the way forward.

tamzzy · 23 Feb 2018 at 19:03

i wouldn't touch any intel 7-series cpu when ryzen is freely available, and for cheaper too...

AnthonyDublin said:
I'm conflicted now.
The i5 has been the go to chip for gaming for so long... Always coming out on top. Now I'm being told Ryzen is the way forward.

why conflicted? technology changes, the 7 series i5 that you mentioned isn't so great anymore.
for your budget, ryzen 5 is the way forward...

orbitalwalsh · 23 Feb 2018 at 20:15

The i5 gaming is now the i5 8400 6 core chip . Does beat Ryzen 1600 in gaming but also costs more , at launch, only £5 diff

My basket at Overclockers UK:

1 x Intel Core i5-8400 2.8GHz (Coffee Lake) Socket LGA1151 Processor - OEM= £179.99
1 x AMD Ryzen 5 Six Core 1600 3.60GHz (Socket AM4) Processor - Retail= £158.99

Total: £348.88 (includes shipping: £9.90)

Then add into factors of the cost of boards , and some H370 may be more expensive then budget z370

tamzzy · 23 Feb 2018 at 20:21

8400 + cheapest board + decent cooler to keep boost clocks up = ~£80 more expensive than 1600 + decent board
and also 6c6t on the 8400 vs 6c12t on the ryzen.
decisions, decisions...
(i'd get the ryzen build. the only intel chip that makes sense currently is the 8700k imo)

orbitalwalsh · 23 Feb 2018 at 20:27

tamzzy said:
8400 + cheapest board + decent cooler to keep boost clocks up = ~£80 more expensive than 1600 + decent board
and also 6c6t on the 8400 vs 6c12t on the ryzen.
decisions, decisions...
(i'd get the ryzen build. the only intel chip that makes sense currently is the 8700k imo)

True, £80 is step from expensive 8GB to more expensive 16GB. Though running both chips side by side with Vega and 1070ti, 8400 comes out in top, but value and lifespan - Ryzen . If intel priced it lower and got H370 at launch, would have been damn good ! Least they are getting on track ... Ryzen + should be a nice boot to get their act together to match zen2

AnthonyDublin · 24 Feb 2018 at 21:02

Thanks for the info lads.
I've decided to go for a Ryzen 5 1600 and 16gb of ram.

Bumped the budget up a little.

Saffy · 25 Feb 2018 at 02:02

That's a good choice.

AnthonyDublin · 25 Feb 2018 at 19:38

Now... Which damn board to buy?
I've been building with Asus boards for years now and never had an issue. Checked tons of reviews online from verified purchasers of the keenly priced Gigabyte boards and they seem to be a bit of a nightmare? I'd be nervous of switching to them if I'm honest.

orbitalwalsh · 25 Feb 2018 at 19:51

AnthonyDublin said:
Now... Which damn board to buy?
I've been building with Asus boards for years now and never had an issue. Checked tons of reviews online from verified purchasers of the keenly priced Gigabyte boards and they seem to be a bit of a nightmare? I'd be nervous of switching to them if I'm honest.

Just browse mother board section to see any related gigabyte post and you'll normally see the Rep sorting it out. No others currently do that or have UK RMA .
But Asus boards are just as solid, Strix and Gaming 3 on here are DACs for budget choice and match the higher ends boards just fine . Also bios is nicer in my view , others say ASRock just tops it .
Browse comes of the budget threads, spec threads and Mobo section. Have a look at some builds using Google .
End of the day, we can only go so far and not try to shove a product in your pocket

Ryzen system will do you feel

and boards are much better then z370- heck H370 has more features and that's meant to be a lower tier chipset haha

AnthonyDublin · 3 Mar 2018 at 15:56

How about this?

My basket at Overclockers UK:

1 x AMD Ryzen 5 Six Core 1600 3.60GHz (Socket AM4) Processor - Retail= £162.96
1 x MSI B350 PC Mate AMD B350 (Socket AM4) DDR4 ATX Motherboard= £75.84
1 x Kingston HyperX Predator 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 PC4-24000C15 3000MHz Dual Channel Kit (HX430C15PB3K2/16)= £204.99

Total: £471.71 (includes shipping: £27.92)

tamzzy · 3 Mar 2018 at 18:36

My basket at Overclockers UK:

1 x AMD Ryzen 5 Six Core 1600 3.60GHz (Socket AM4) Processor - Retail= £158.99
1 x Gigabyte GA-AB350M-Gaming 3 AMD B350 (Socket AM4) DDR4 Micro ATX Motherboard= £72.95
1 x Team Group Dark Pro 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 PC4-25600C16 3200MHz Dual Channel Kit - Black/Red (TDPRD416G32= £199.99

Total: £442.43 (includes shipping: £10.50)

this would be my recommendation.
cheaper board with better support
cheaper and faster ram

orbitalwalsh · 3 Mar 2018 at 19:56

Go with the above ^^^^ just a shame since when you first posted, ram was on sale, could have saved £15-20

AnthonyDublin · 7 Mar 2018 at 16:39

I'll pull the trigger on this tonight (unless anybody has any objections)

My basket at Overclockers UK:

1 x Gigabyte GA-AB350-Gaming 3 AMD B350 (Socket AM4) DDR4 ATX Motherboard= £86.99
1 x AMD Ryzen 5 Six Core 1600 3.60GHz (Socket AM4) Processor - Retail= £158.99
1 x Team Group Dark Pro 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 PC4-25600C16 3200MHz Dual Channel Kit - Black/Red (TDPRD416G32= £179.99

Total: £436.47 (includes shipping: £10.50)