Upgrading to Haswell ? is it worth it over my setup ?

ViRuS2k

ViRuS2k

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Planning on buying these 2 items in the next 10 minutes so they arrive tomorrow.

Intel Core i7-4770K 3.50GHz (Haswell) Socket LGA1150 Processor - Retail
Gigabyte Z87X-OC Intel Z87 (Socket 1150) DDR3 ATX Motherboard

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Is it worth it though over my current setup..

i7 D0 @4.2ghz
SaberTooth X58

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will i see much gain see i plan to running my 2 crossfire his 7950s will the 2 cards fit in the motherboard without touching each other i also need a pci express to be free for my zxr sound card.
will there be room ? i also read on the board info that the pci express lanes will only run at 8x in crossfire or 4x in crossfire wont that slow every card down.
 
Will see a different as the GPU's won't be bottlenecked as much from the CPU.

There will also be enough room on the motherboard for space between the cards.
 
ViRuS2k said:
Intel Core i7-4770K 3.50GHz (Haswell) Socket LGA1150 Processor - Retail
Gigabyte Z87X-OC Intel Z87 (Socket 1150) DDR3 ATX Motherboard


will i see much gain see i plan to running my 2 crossfire his 7950s will the 2 cards fit in the motherboard without touching each other i also need a pci express to be free for my zxr sound card.
will there be room ? i also read on the board info that the pci express lanes will only run at 8x in crossfire or 4x in crossfire wont that slow every card down.
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The Board has the first lane running at x16.

If you use lane 1 and 2 for Xfire they will run at x16 x4,

If you use the 1st and 3rd lanes for Xfire they will run at x8/x8 which is the optimum..

This means you can put your sound card in the second Pci-E lane. :)

What is your cooling solution?
 
Yeah thats what i would be doing 1st and 3rd pci express lanes.
D14 will be using as cooler.
when i get the cpu should i try and delid it ? ? ?

Also i have so much important stuff on my pc windows 7 x64 os on my hdd will this new motherboard require a reformat or can i just start it up and it will find the drivers and boot my os..... really do not want to format here lol
 
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The OS links to your motherboard, so this maybe a good time to get an SSD as a boot drive.. Then you won't have to reformat. :)

Otherwise you will have to re-format, really. :)

Great cooler choice. :)
 
:D

cant wait to start the build tommorow....
though i will only be able to install 8gb memory in the 4 slots as i only have 12gb 6 dims from my x58 setup
so i need to sell these later on and get 16gb set ;)

8gb should be fine though for now as i only game and watch movies and browse the net with my system ;)
and what do you mean OS links to your motherboard ? i dont think so as i use to have a older x58 board and just changed the boards to the new x58 saber and i did not have to format. ;) though this is a new architecture so you might be right hope your wrong lol

yeah next stuff on my buy list is more/better memory and ssd for os but for now i think i can wait on those :D

do you have any recommendations what bios to flash on this new motherboard when it arrives before i even boot os, or try to.
 
8gb is fine in a gaming rig, had 16gb in mine a while back but tbh it was overkill for a system used primarily for games.
 
God damn it, no one told me i had to buy a nocta d14 1150 socket mounting kit :( got all my gear here but cant install :( ****
all that mine fits is :( LGA1366 / LGA1156 / LGA775 / AM2 /AM2+ / and AM3

no LGA 1150 :( can not believe this mistake lol
 
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ViRuS2k said:
God damn it, no one told me i had to buy a nocta d14 1150 socket mounting kit :( got all my gear here but cant install :( ****
all that mine fits is :( LGA1366 / LGA1156 / LGA775 / AM2 /AM2+ / and AM3

no LGA 1150 :( can not believe this mistake lol
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1156/1155 and 1150 have the same mounting. :)

Problem solved
 
ViRuS2k said:
God damn it, no one told me i had to buy a nocta d14 1150 socket mounting kit :( got all my gear here but cant install :( ****
all that mine fits is :( LGA1366 / LGA1156 / LGA775 / AM2 /AM2+ / and AM3

no LGA 1150 :( can not believe this mistake lol
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1150/1155/1156 use the same mountings.
 
Update i read this on anan, seems i might not even need the mounting kit
the kit is seemingly only required for pre 2005 nocta d14 coolers.

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actually i don't need to do anything, that kit is for pre 2005 Heatsinks, current heatsinks will work fine as Haswell will have the same mounting holes as 1150/1155.

<i>Because the LGA 1150 socket keeps the same mounting hole spacing as the current LGA 1156 and LGA 1155 sockets, many newer Noctua cooler will not need the mounting kit upgrade, and can simply be installed into the Haswell machine as is. In other words, if the heatsink worked with your Lynnfield, Sandy Bridge, or Ivy Bridge-based system, it will work in a Haswell system as well. According to Noctua, the following coolers are already compatible with Haswell:

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So what socket bracket do i use for the 1150 socket out of the sockets i have in the box ?
 
Well guys been at this setup for hours and i have run into loads of issues.
think im going to have to send the board and cpu back to ocuk.
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first issue : default temps in the bios is 48c in the bios. and thats with a default voltage of 1.168v thats way high for stock, think i win the crown for worst clocker ever.
But anyway that is not the only issues i have, not sure if its down to the BIOS being version F3. old revision board ? think so.
also my main hdd is going nuts on this motherboard rapid clicking never ever did this with my x58 board. tryed ide mode and ahci mode. both do it and about 10 boots out of 40 boots the drive will detect....
now on to the main issue if those above where not enough to put you off my £200 creative ZXR will not fit in this board when i have both my crossfire cards in pciexpress 1 and 3 cards wont fit in 2 and 4 or any other combination due to the size of there heatsinks as they take up about 2 half pci express sockets lol
there for leaving me with a very very tight fit right at the bottom of the board putting the card into the last pci express 4x port for the sound card but then issues happen.
for a start on windows boot up i get a E7 or something like that halt stop error i know its to do with the graphics cards so something is interfearing with it and with the sound card removed that error does not happen.
and final issue even with my noctua d14 cooler i can not fit any of the memory in slots 1 2 or 3 as the cooler is to low you need really small profile dims for this board and cooler so that left me with 4gb of memory.......
so in the end i removed the board and cpu out of sheer fustration and packed them back up ready to ship back to ocuk for full refunds.

haswell for me can say fairwell. not a great experiance all round.... granted some of the issues where due to me not researching the hight and cooler widths ect.. ohh and here is another issue with this board. if i press the reboot button i get no signal on my monitor if i press the power button to shut down then power back up i get a signal, also if i save any settings in the bios that requires a restart ect i get no signal unless i poweroff and back on..... massive issue that one.

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sorry about the big post but im ****ed right off with this hardware. yes there will be spelling mistakes as im half asleep and can not be bothered to correct lol
 
MagicBoy said:
Hmm. Doesn't sound happy.

48C at idle or under load?
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Idle i think as the cpu core was running at 3.9568ghz and was fluctuating within a 0.1% up or down though not sure its running full load in the bios as that would be stupid think it was idle temps.

I have my x58 back up and running changed the cpu and mobo back and the hdd is working perfectly but for some reason goes mental with this x87 board ?

is the F3 bios really old on this board ?
as thats what was on it.
 
ViRuS2k said:
first issue : default temps in the bios is 48c in the bios. and thats with a default voltage of 1.168v thats way high for stock, think i win the crown for worst clocker ever.
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The CPU does not idle in the bios, so your temps will show higher there than they would proper idling in Windows.

ViRuS2k said:
But anyway that is not the only issues i have, not sure if its down to the BIOS being version F3. old revision board ? think so.
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As this is new tech I'd recommend keeping up with bios updates, particularly when you're running into issues.

ViRuS2k said:
also my main hdd is going nuts on this motherboard rapid clicking never ever did this with my x58 board. tryed ide mode and ahci mode. both do it and about 10 boots out of 40 boots the drive will detect....
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I'm assuming you're on the Intel ports? I've had problems using the ASMedia controller on my board. It's something that could possibly be fixed with bios updates.

ViRuS2k said:
there for leaving me with a very very tight fit right at the bottom of the board putting the card into the last pci express 4x port for the sound card but then issues happen.
for a start on windows boot up i get a E7 or something like that halt stop error i know its to do with the graphics cards so something is interfearing with it and with the sound card removed that error does not happen.
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My board has an extra molex connector at the bottom end (somewhat hidden as it points downwards) to provide extra power to the slots when using SLI/x-fire. Does your board have such a connector and did you use it?

ViRuS2k said:
and final issue even with my noctua d14 cooler i can not fit any of the memory in slots 1 2 or 3 as the cooler is to low you need really small profile dims for this board and cooler so that left me with 4gb of memory.......
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My Kingston HyperX Beast memory isn't exactly small (46.4mm high) but it does fit using the D14 with the memory in the 2nd and 4th slots (the slots to use when using two sticks). Had to lift the fan a little though.

ViRuS2k said:
so in the end i removed the board and cpu out of sheer fustration and packed them back up ready to ship back to ocuk for full refunds.
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Fair enough, but some of your issues do sound like user error though, and thus possibly solvable.
 
Martini1991 said:
F3 I think is pre retail BIOS.
Flash it to the latest and then try remounting.
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It's odd for the board to come with that BIOS isn't it?

Yeah as Martini said, flash it to the latest BIOS.

It does also sound like the cooler isn't mounted exactly right, do it physically move or when you touch it? (there should be a little flex but normally just a small bounce)..
 
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