Upgrading to improve FPS high setting on fallout

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Hi I have a gigabyte 7950 apparently with the ghz bios flashed ontoit, and I have it running at 1070/1470 with an i5 2500k at 4.2ghz (could also go up to 4.3 if it would help) and 8gb of corsair xms3 1333mhz ram, although i have ordered 16gb of corsair 2400mhz ram due to arrive this week. I have recently started playing fallout 4 and at medium settings I get 60fps just fine, but when I change the settings to high, the rate drops to around 40 at 1080p on a cheap 24 inch monitor.

I wanted to know if there is anything i can do to improve the framerate to get it closer to 60fps, or make ultra playable, and if anyone could give me an idea of how much of an improvement, if any i should expect from the ram upgrade.

If the ram upgrade will not give much of an improvement then, i may not use it.

Would a gpu upgrade be required, and should i wait for the new amd/nvidia cards later in the year and upgrade? Or is there anything that i should change in the preconfigured high/ultra settings to improve the framerates?
Any advice would be appreciated, Thanks.
 
Ram is going to make very little difference to frame rate, it just means things will load faster and be more likely to sit in Memory rather than "Page swap" out back to your HDD.

I'm not an expert on graphics cards so I will leave that to someone else to answer but a GPU upgrade does sound the way forward.
 
Fallout 4 is a bit like that, I was expecting to max it out in 4K with my highly overclocked 390 (It is a Bethesda game after all...) and I can only play it in 1440P on High :(

I'll see what its like with a 390 in 1080P later on, and report back :)
 
Acme said:
Fallout 4 is a bit like that, I was expecting to max it out in 4K with my highly overclocked 390 (It is a Bethesda game after all...) and I can only play it in 1440P on High :(

I'll see what its like with a 390 in 1080P later on, and report back :)
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I would definitely be interested to hear what you find as I have been looking at r9 290's and 290x's on ebay and from what i have read, the 390 is the same as the 290.

mickyflinn said:
Wrong

Fallout 4 Performance Heavily Influenced By RAM Speed

http://wccftech.com/fallout-4-perfo...-ram-speed-according-to-report/#ixzz43dJ4TOon

http://www.gamespot.com/forums/pc-m...ulusly-high-performance-gained-by-f-32754964/
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I did remember coming across something like this thanks for the links. I guess i'll just have to wait for the new ram to arrive and try it out. Are there other games where the ram would make much of a difference, or is it just the start of a trend?
 
mickyflinn said:
Wrong

Fallout 4 Performance Heavily Influenced By RAM Speed

http://wccftech.com/fallout-4-perfo...-ram-speed-according-to-report/#ixzz43dJ4TOon

http://www.gamespot.com/forums/pc-m...ulusly-high-performance-gained-by-f-32754964/
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This isn't incorrect, but it isn't helpful to the OP either. Those articles use a Titan X and a 980 Ti, respectively, at 1080p. Both are going to hugely exaggerate the CPU/RAM bottleneck compared to a "real life" system. Most people (like the OP) use a lesser GPU, and anyone who is using a GPU like that will be using a higher resolution. In both cases the GPU will be the bottleneck and the RAM won't make such a big difference.

It's a bit weird that your performance is so bad at High OP. This guy has a similar system and seems to have no trouble running Ultra. Maybe the beginning sequence is not as taxing? I suppose it's possible that your 1333 MHz RAM really is a limiting factor, let us know what happens when you've tried the new stuff.

 
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joeyjojo said:
This isn't incorrect, but it isn't helpful to the OP either. Those articles use a Titan X and a 980 Ti, respectively, at 1080p. Both are going to hugely exaggerate the CPU/RAM bottleneck compared to a "real life" system. Most people (like the OP) use a lesser GPU, and anyone who is using a GPU like that will be using a higher resolution. In both cases the GPU will be the bottleneck and the RAM won't make such a big difference.

It's a bit weird that your performance is so bad at High OP. This guy has a similar system and seems to have no trouble running Ultra. Or maybe the beginning sequence is not as taxing?

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Even during the begining of the game i was only getting 40fps on high so I have no idea how the youtuber is managing such a great framerate
 
his ram is at 1600Mhz, going from 1333Mhz to 1600Mhz or more will give you a boost in performance. anything over 1600Mhz gives no real gains but will not be a bad thing.

to be fair your CPU is well upto the job of fallout 4, i run the game at 1440 on an i3 6100 @ 4.2Ghz.

Your GPU will be your problem. are you monitoring temps of the GPU?
Put the GPU ram to stock speeds as your getting no gains from the ram been overclocked.

also do you have any stupid stuff running in the background?
 
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OP you sure it is not Nvidia's God rays in the game killing the performance of your 7950?

You might want to turn that off if not already done so, and the frame rate will most likely shoot right up.
 
P4Clock said:
his ram is at 1600Mhz, going from 1333Mhz to 1600Mhz or more will give you a boost in performance. anything over 1600Mhz gives no real gains but will not be a bad thing.

to be fair your CPU is well upto the job of fallout 4, i run the game at 1440 on an i3 6100 @ 4.2Ghz.

Your GPU will be your problem. are you monitoring temps of the GPU?
Put the GPU ram to stock speeds as your getting no gains from the ram been overclocked.

also do you have any stupid stuff running in the background?
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My gpu temps are around 57C under load, the overclock has helped on several games in the past, I havent played much on my pc in the last 2 years but if i remember correctly, then i used to have the clocks at over 1100/1500, and it was fine as well. I just put it at 1070/1470 as the difference wouldn't have much in game performance drop

Marine-RX179 said:
OP you sure it is not Nvidia's God rays in the game killing the performance of your 7950?

You might want to turn that off if not already done so, and the frame rate will most likely shoot right up.
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I was reading up on this as you just said this, when i get home tonight i will turn it off, and hopefully it will help f it currently on.
 
Ahh yes, put god rays on low if they aren't already. Looks the same, much more performance. :)
 
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Turning down godrays got me around 5fps but still not what I was expecting, but gameplay is not as smooth as it previously was, too many fps drops, still waiting on the ram.

I'm really looking forward to polaris and pascal now lol
 
I have a 7950, its oc'd to 900mhz so not even faster than some of the other 7950's out of the box, I run the game on high and its smooth :) I'll have to get something to measure actual fps.

For the curious, my ram is running at 2133mhz.
 
There are a lot of performance enhancing texture overhauls out now that help greatly with performance. Maybe instead of bumping the hardware you could mod the software.
 
Turned out to be plays.tv which was killing the performance, now i can run everything at ultra minus shadows and godrays, and get 50-60 fps with occational drops below.
 
Glad you got it sorted.

I'm running 780SLI and despite using the SLI 'hack' to enable it the performance is just awful for me at 1440p, its a stuttery jumpy mess with constant frame drops everywhere.

I suspect a lack of vram maybe the issue but I refuse to play at 1080p :D so will just hold until I decide to move to a single card solution.
 
I have to agree with you there. That's the first time I have bothered to look at a video of FO4 and the graphics look terrible for a modern game. It look's no better than Half Life 2 and that's ancient.
 
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