Upgrading Vista to XP!

[Fire Wizard]

of course it is - it's completely down to the hardware manufacturers. but it's easier/more fun to blame microsoft.....

I know, i know, I was being polite.

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Hey Spudgun, the results from that article are stating that Windows XP is slightly faster than Windows Vista in most of the games. However, Windows Vista is only losing a couple of frames per second over Windows XP and surely that isn't anything to worry about?

I am guessing that you are referring to the 8% and 9 - 10% drop in performance as an overall statistic? If you are, surely this isn't the right way of judging the performance since, even if every single game running in Windows Vista was 1 frames per second slower than Windows XP, if you do enough benchmarks, eventual that overall figure will go up but this doesn't necessary give us a conclusion that we need to judge Windows Vista game performance, It should be testing each game individually. (I hope that make's sense)

 

[Teaf]

Vista has a lot of things that XP doesn't have which are VERY handy to have. But facing reality, XP is faster than Vista and not just in games... although Vista's speed will eventually increase quite a bit, whereas XP's won't increase that much other than SP3.

 

[Glaucus]

But facing reality, XP is faster than Vista and not just in games... although Vista's speed will eventually increase quite a bit, whereas XP's won't increase that much other than SP3.

I find vista loads faster in general OS things.

 

[marc2003]

I find vista loads faster in general OS things.

yup. once you're used to vista, going back to xp feels like a chore. if you try and compare the two side by side, there isn't much in it. but use vista non stop for a month and then go back to xp and you notice the difference.

i'll admit vista can be a pain sometimes with the way some stuff is laid out in control panel and explorer but they're trivial things and you soon get used to it even if it does mean a few more clicks here and there.....

 

[Columbo]

Vista has a lot of things that XP doesn't have which are VERY handy to have. But facing reality, XP is faster than Vista and not just in games... although Vista's speed will eventually increase quite a bit, whereas XP's won't increase that much other than SP3.

Where is XP faster except for the buggiest of games or with software where the manufacturers cant be arsed to write some proper vista code. Serioulsy everything I have thrown @ Vista 64 runs faster and more stable. Sony Vegas runs so much faster now its hard to believe.

 

[Glaucus]

i'll admit vista can be a pain sometimes with the way some stuff is laid out in control panel and explorer but they're trivial things and you soon get used to it even if it does mean a few more clicks here and there.....

two clicks to get control and start menu back to classic.

As you say on paper you go why. But when you've used vista for a while nad then go back to xp. There's many small changes that you just become dependent on that xp doesn't have. Vista really is in a different class to xp.

 

[Spudgun]

Where is XP faster except for the buggiest of games or with software where the manufacturers cant be arsed to write some proper vista code. Serioulsy everything I have thrown @ Vista 64 runs faster and more stable. Sony Vegas runs so much faster now its hard to believe.

I found XP to be significantly faster than vista 64 in the following

Cod 4 - 4-10FPS difference in the same scenes
Gears of War - 6 FPS difference
Crysis - 10-15 FPS difference
3DMark 2006 - 862 point difference

I like vista as an OS, but i have hard evidence that XP performs better in the games that i am currently playing

 

[Skeeter]

I will amend my comments, it is indeed the manufacturers issues with driver, not MS.

I currently do not run Vista on any of my machines. I have however got about 3 betas and both RC's on disk that I have used along with Ultimate 64 and 32 bit flavors.

Ran Betas and RC1 on my old laptop (P4 2.4Ghtz, 512MB ram) and it installed (after turning the pnboard graphics down to 8meg). Only real issue woth it was the speed. It was slow, put it down to old hardware. Didnt use it for more than about a week, then it broke so got a £500 voucher for it.

Ran Betas, RC2 and Final 32 bit Ultimate on my iDEQ SFF. ITs newer than the Laptop. Nforce 2 mobo, AMD XP2100+, 1GB RAM. It was very confusing. sometimes would load without half the programs, sometimes would load fine, sometimes had an image, sometimes didnt (nVidia drivers fault I admit). Would sleep, then resume, then sleep, then not resume, or simply just not sleep? absolutely no support for my TV card (again, drivers). there was a lot of other niggling problems i cant really remember, just the inconsistency with it. some things wouold work fine, then when you restarted the machine, they would not work. Most of the issues that werent drivers were not present in the beta or RC, but only appeared in the final version?

On my newest machine, my PC (E6400, 2GB RAM, 7800GT) I have run both the 32 and 64 bit versions of RC1, RC2 and Final Ultimtate. By now drovers were up to date, and I didnt have many problems with them. but sleeping was still a nightmare. sometimes sleeps, sometimes doesnt, sometimes resumes, sometimes doesnt, etc. and I lost a lot of performance. was getting 30FPS in CS:S on Vista whereas the same settings in XP were sitting nicely at my vsync capped 70fps, with the occasional drop to 60 odd. Was impossible for me to host a server and play on CS:S on vista, just lagged, not bandwidth of graphics, just a slow machine. So went back to XP, and havent touched Vista in about 2 months.

Basically, yes, Vista has a lot more in it that XP, yes I understand the drivers are the major issue. but I dont want to fiddle this and change that and use this specific driver for this (was choppign and changing about 4 sets of nVidia drivers for my SFF). XP 'just works' 99% of the time, and that just makes it a more logical choice.

I live in a student house with 7 computer in it, and only the brand new Vista machine is the one im called in to help sort out. We all share our files around, and the sharing in Vista is just a little annoying. Installing any games older than a few years is a hit and miss operation, and its just slow. What makes matters worse is that its a PC shop bought PC, so comes bundled with the resource hogging crap that comapanies shove on new machines that you never need! 6 XP machines, no issues, 1 Vista machine, issues almost every day, although half are user error due to everythign being in a different place in Vista than XP.

So, as you can see, ive had quite an extensive use of Vista in both its development and final stages. seen and used developments over 4 years, and used it on 3 personal machines, girlfriends top end Vaio laptop, mates laptop, and housemates PC, and have never experienced a problem free setup. It could just be my luck...