UPS for home network

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I'm currently looking to get a small UPS for my home network to prevent sudden shutdowns of the equipment.

Has anyone had any experience of the Eaton S3 v2 (700VA most likely) or the APC BACK-UPS 650VA units?
The Eaton has 4 battery back up sockets and 4 surge protected whereas the APC has 8 battery backup sockets.

I'll be powering UDM Pro, 16 port switch, ONT and CCTV NVR.

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Those appear to be some heafty power items there; UDM Pro up to 33W, 16 Port switch not listed but I assume anywhere between 8W to 150W, CCTV NVR anywhere between 15W to 50W, with an ONT taking up the least usually up to 15W at most for that one, but a minimum of 35W for the whole shebang there it looks like with nothing else attached.

How long are you thinking of having the UPS in keeping those components alive if a power outage happens? As that really helps determine whether those UPS are even viable for your use case.
 
i have a APC BACK-UPS 650VA (it looks exactly like could be a diff model but it didn't cost too much ) and it powers a synolgy with 4 disks, unifi cloud key disk , unifi 8 port switch POE which drives cameras and 3x AP points, 24 port switch, network hdd, ubiquiti firewall, maybe couple of other things. oh cable modem and hue and my energi thing. It's all fine.
 
Thanks for the feedback folks.
I'm not looking to keep everything powered for a huge amount of time. Even just 20-30 minutes to get everything shutdown safely would be fine with me. I have heard of some of the equipment getting bricked with sudden shutdowns which is the main reason for looking for one. I'm not looking to keep the rack alive for hours. Cheaper and reliable would be ideal.
 
None of that will get bricked with a sudden power outage.

What happens if you get a long power cut when you are not at home? UPS runs out and they turn off…

That said, I’m not saying one wouldn’t be handy to keep things up and running for very small minor outages. If you have a home battery with EPS (which may not be fast enough to keep them online when switching over to battery) a small UPS could be handy to keeping everything online while the EPS kicks in.
 
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b0rn2sk8 said:
None of that will get bricked with a sudden power outage.

What happens if you get a long power cut when you are not at home? UPS runs out and they turn off…

That said, I’m not saying one wouldn’t be handy to keep things up and running for very small minor outages. If you have a home battery with EPS (which may not be fast enough to keep them online when switching over to battery) a small UPS could be handy to keeping everything online while the EPS kicks in.
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That is good to know. I'm probably over thinking it after seeing several posts about bricking after a power outage.
Good point though about not being at home but I have nothing else on any sort of backup locally.
 
Is there any point in keeping an ONT powered during a power outage does the local equipment outside your home stay powered?
 
I'm not sure to be fair, I had read it does. Saying that, We are only just getting FTTP rolled out this year, I'm currently still on FTTC which I believe the cabinets have a battery backup in. I'm not sure about FTTP though.
 
robj20 said:
Is there any point in keeping an ONT powered during a power outage does the local equipment outside your home stay powered?
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Storm eroywn killed a lot of power in N.I. most of our side of the town was off for at least a day, our estate of about 60 houses was off for nearly 2 days. Widespread power outages across N.I.

However when I powered the house using my EV, our fibre internet worked fine, which means whatever kit was in place between our house and the exchange 2 miles away did not lose power, nor did anything else between the exchange and further upstream.

Bring the subject back to UPS, one of things to remember with UPS is that whether they kick in or not, the batteries lose a LOT of their storage potential after a few years, so best to get ones that have a facility to change the batteries.
 
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tangey said:
Storm eroywn killed a lot of power in N.I. most of our side of the town was off for at least a day, our estate of about 60 houses was off for nearly 2 days. Widespread power outages across N.I.

However when I powered the house using my EV, our fibre internet worked fine, which means whatever kit was in place between our house and the exchange 2 miles away did not lose power, nor did anything else between the exchange and further upstream.

Bring the subject back to UPS, one of things to remember with UPS is that whether they kick in or not, the batteries lose a LOT of their storage potential after a few years, so best to get ones that have a facility to change the batteries.
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I believe both the items I mentioned have the capability to have their batteries replaced.
 
So folks, APC or Eaton? I noticed that elsewhere has the APC 850VA/520W down tro £92 just now. Worth even doing?
 
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michty_me said:
I'm currently looking to get a small UPS for my home network to prevent sudden shutdowns of the equipment.
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I use Cyberpower UPSs. Specifically the VP1600EILCD devices. I've had them from late 2020 and they're still going strong.
 
I'm running my network on an APC Back-UPS.

I had a similar model before until the alarm kept going off for a worn out battery. I looked in to changing the battery, but the genuine ones were almost the cost of a new unit. I could have got a 12V battery from a company I'd never heard of for less, but given it's something I need to rely on and is handling mains voltage I felt a bit uneasy even if the battery itself is only 12V.

I ended up getting a new unit on offer. The one good thing about the big brands is that they are usually recognised quite easily if you want to hook them up via USB to a NAS or server etc.
 
alexp999 said:
I had a similar model before until the alarm kept going off for a worn out battery. I looked in to changing the battery, but the genuine ones were almost the cost of a new unit. I could have got a 12V battery from a company I'd never heard of for less, but given it's something I need to rely on and is handling mains voltage I felt a bit uneasy even if the battery itself is only 12V.
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UPS-Trader on ebay (or his own website) is normally good for OEM quality replacements at decent prices


E.g. just as an example
APC RBC7 - genuine replacement is £213.76 + VAT at our supplier

UPS Trader Ebay - £98.90 inc VAT
 
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Armageus said:
UPS-Trader on ebay (or his own website) is normally good for OEM quality replacements at decent prices


E.g. just as an example
APC RBC7 - genuine replacement is £213.76 + VAT at our supplier

UPS Trader Ebay - £98.90 inc VAT
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Good to know, thanks.

Although when the UPS are on offer, it still closes the gap.

Feels a bit like printers, cheaper to buy a new one than refill it. Lol. But the e-waste really bugs me.
 
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