USB 3.0!

[dustofnations]

Don't really want a card hanging out the side of my laptops.

hahaha the imagery of a PCI card hanging out of the side of a laptop ... Seriously though you could get an expresscard thing which lies flush

 

[AbsenceJam]

Another person who doesn't understand why Firewire is able to sustain a transfer rate that USB2 can only dream of despite being introduced 6 years earlier.

This is a topic about USB 3..... Although I've previously posted in this very same topic that USB2 only sustains half of the 'advertised' throughput.

 

[hohum]

Personally I'm hoping I can hold out on building my next PC until there are motherboards with 'all the 3s' available (USB 3.0, SATA 3, PCI-e 3.0). This machine's holding up well though, so I should be able to wait until then.

 

[Caged]

This is a topic about USB 3..... Although I've previously posted in this very same topic that USB2 only sustains half of the 'advertised' throughput.

My point is that USB has a long history of actual throughput nowhere near the claimed speed, so it's very likely that FW800 is quicker. Until it's available nobody will know.

 

[Caged]

an expresscard thing which lies flush

They don't.

 

[Energize]

Another person who doesn't understand why Firewire is able to sustain a transfer rate that USB2 can only dream of despite being introduced 6 years earlier.

My point is that USB has a long history of actual throughput nowhere near the claimed speed, so it's very likely that FW800 is quicker. Until it's available nobody will know.

Considering USB 3 has a signalling rate of 5Gb/s the throughput utilisation would have to be lower than 15% for it to be slower than firewire, that seems extremely unlikely, especially considering usb 2 does much better than that.

 

[Aod]

This is a topic about USB 3..... Although I've previously posted in this very same topic that USB2 only sustains half of the 'advertised' throughput.

they're called overheads. all data transfer protocols suffer from them.

for all the delusional firewire 800 fans, please be aware that FireWire 800 has a throughput of 800 Mega-Bits per second which is exactly 100 Mega-Bytes per second

and FireWire also suffers from overheads (although not as many as USB)

 

[dustofnations]

They don't.

Oh really, I've seen some that do and you have to eject them with the little push-button

 

[mrk]

USB 1.0 is still fine for most things apart from memory cards/hard drives!

Which is exactly why USB3 is what's needed. Your statement is like a nuclear fusion wrongness!

eSATA is here, fine, but not everyone uses eSATA as it was intended, only those who know how to configure it use it.

USB3 will bind super fast external drives not only to home users but businesses too.

 

[james.miller]

Oh really, I've seen some that do and you have to eject them with the little push-button

firewire express cards?

 

[Caged]

Oh really, I've seen some that do and you have to eject them with the little push-button

Considering a Firewire connector is thicker than an ExpressCard I highly doubt you've ever seen one that sits flush.

 

[Dano]

Don't really want a card hanging out the side of my laptops.

Fair enough

 

[therealnerd2]

This is a topic about USB 3..... Although I've previously posted in this very same topic that USB2 only sustains half of the 'advertised' throughput.

Why does USB 2 only sustain half the throughput?

 

[Caged]

It's very CPU bound. FireWire supports DMA so the processor doesn't have to know, care, or control what's going on.

 

[dustofnations]

Considering a Firewire connector is thicker than an ExpressCard I highly doubt you've ever seen one that sits flush.

Ah OK I thought you were referring to express cards en generale. My mistake . You're right in saying the Firewire ones look bulbous, I just had a scan of Google products and they aren't discrete. Suppose you could just take it out when you don't need it, so you don't need to tote it around all the time, that way I suppose it causes a minimal inconvenience.