USB Type-C connectors

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I don't understand USB type-C connectors on the front I/O of a case!

A USB Type-C is a replacement connector for MicroUSB connectors.
No cases I know of have a MicroUSB connector on the I/O Port, so why have the Type C which is the replacement for the MicroUSB connector.

I have 2 mobile devices which are Type C, but they are the charging ports on the device, the cable supplied to charge them are normal USB connectors on the other end?

Am I missing the point?
 
"A USB Type-C is a replacement connector for MicroUSB connectors."

Incorrect, it's meant to replace both 'ends' of the USB standard. Just nobody has properly adopted it yet really.
 
Usbc to usbc is designed to simply do more.
More power, display out, power delivery and acceptance.

Not sure I understand the question

For example. On my surface book the usbc
-charges the laptop (60W I think capable, or at least 45)
-charges a device
-outputs audio
-outputs visual
-data transfer

It's a direct micro USB replacement
 
well, I'm yet to find a device that has a USB type C on the input side of a PC device.
Keybaords still use normal USB3.0 and so do USB pens.

The only things I know that uses Type is a phone power charge port, but thats not the PC side.

My S9 is TypeC on the phone but the supplied cable is standard USB on the other end and the wall plug is too - so I don't see the point currently.
 
Ace Modder said:
Hi

I don't understand USB type-C connectors on the front I/O of a case!

A USB Type-C is a replacement connector for MicroUSB connectors.
No cases I know of have a MicroUSB connector on the I/O Port, so why have the Type C which is the replacement for the MicroUSB connector.

I have 2 mobile devices which are Type C, but they are the charging ports on the device, the cable supplied to charge them are normal USB connectors on the other end?

Am I missing the point?
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USB C to USB C is the next thing to push out normal USB headers.
 
Ace Modder said:
well, I'm yet to find a device that has a USB type C on the input side of a PC device.
Keybaords still use normal USB3.0 and so do USB pens.

The only things I know that uses Type is a phone power charge port, but thats not the PC side.
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Mac books do dont they?
 
413x said:
Not sure I understand the question
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I think the question is that one end of USB-C is still using the same standard plug/socket that all USB devices have used to date.

If USB-C to USB-C was designed to have the same interface at both ends, then you would expect to see manufacturers for things like motherboards/cases start to adopt this type of socket.
 
So the problem is that device manufacturers are not adopting the TypeC technology because it is niché on a PC, 99% of PCs don't have Type C connector.
So until they start to offer removable cables on stuff like keyboards and mice etc, then I don't see Type C taking over as the choice, because currently it alienates most buyers who cannot use it.
 
Semple said:
If USB-C to USB-C was designed to have the same interface at both ends, then you would expect to see manufacturers for things like motherboards/cases start to adopt this type of socket.
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It is and they should be, but they're dragging heels
 
My work laptop (HP) and my macbook have usbc. My phone has usbc; so I use a usbc<>usbc cable. No longer do I find myself faffing everytime I need to plug it in.

My Pixel2XL came only with usbc<>usbc and the wall charger usbc too.
 
You can get USB C pen drives, but they're obscure/ lesser stocked.

To be completely honest I think it's just another "fad" but not a bad one, I'm all for getting rid of the 3 attempts to plug something in, I believe Microsoft supply a USB C to C cable for the phone with an additional USB C to A for standard people who don't have C yet.

-Edit I'm specifically touching on case manufacturers including it on the front I/O, that's what I'm calling a "fad" not USB C in general, in general I think USB C is a great step in the right direction for getting rid of old, unnecessary standards.
 
Matt O'Brien said:
You can get USB C pen drives, but they're obscure/ lesser stocked.

To be completely honest I think it's just another "fad" but not a bad one, I'm all for getting rid of the 3 attempts to plug something in, I believe Microsoft supply a USB C to C cable for the phone with an additional USB C to A for standard people who don't have C yet.

-Edit I'm specifically touching on case manufacturers including it on the front I/O, that's what I'm calling a "fad" not USB C in general, in general I think USB C is a great step in the right direction for getting rid of old, unnecessary standards.
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The issue is that the USB interface is such a widely used and built standard that it will require manufacturers to support both interfaces for some time. Yes, there's no reason for them not to swap completely over to USB-C interfaces, and provide a USB-C to a hub that connects standard USB devices.

Things have to be phased out eventually, and trying to support both interfaces just delays how long it takes to remove one interface from general usage.
 
Absolutely agree with you.

Cannot see the point of usbc when there is a standard usb connector at the other end, power supply, PC etc.

I have had that thought few years ago

Pointless

My Lenovo P2 phone charge up 5100mah (microusb) battery faster than nexus 5x 2700mah on usbc cahrger.

Pointless again
 
I have a usbc charger, and laptop so use usbc to usbc cables.

I actually don't use USBc to usba ever
 
My phone has type-c and it is great. Trying to plug in original USB into the back of a wall mounted TV is a black art would be so much easier with type-c.
 
Semple said:
I think the question is that one end of USB-C is still using the same standard plug/socket that all USB devices have used to date.

If USB-C to USB-C was designed to have the same interface at both ends, then you would expect to see manufacturers for things like motherboards/cases start to adopt this type of socket.
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Modern motherboards do have USB c connectors.
 
Ace Modder said:
So the problem is that device manufacturers are not adopting the TypeC technology because it is niché on a PC, 99% of PCs don't have Type C connector.
So until they start to offer removable cables on stuff like keyboards and mice etc, then I don't see Type C taking over as the choice, because currently it alienates most buyers who cannot use it.
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Actually they are, but adoption rate is slow given the ,masses of devices still in use with normal USB or Micro.

It will take time, nobody ever said it would happen within 1-2 years of course, but USB-C is going to replace all those thick cables. All new phones that are not made by Apple or low end phones are using USB-C ports, likewise power banks, wall chargers and higher spec laptops are coming with USB-C ports too.
 
J.T said:
I thought Type-C was going to replace all current USB?
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Ace Modder said:
well, I'm yet to find a device that has a USB type C on the input side of a PC device.
Keybaords still use normal USB3.0 and so do USB pens.

The only things I know that uses Type is a phone power charge port, but thats not the PC side.

My S9 is TypeC on the phone but the supplied cable is standard USB on the other end and the wall plug is too - so I don't see the point currently.
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One does not simple replace a standard interface over night E.G. VGA D-Sub 15
 
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