Use of I and me...

StriderX said:
Its better, deal with it.
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I still don't get it, although your first statement could be changed to:

'One and Susan are here' if you are referring to yourself as 'One' and not 'the one', but apart from that, wt actual f?
 
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Quink said:
I still don't get it, although your first statement could be changed to:

'One and Susan are here' if you are referring to yourself as 'One' and not 'the one' and referring to yourself in a past tense (?), but apart from that, wt actual f?
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You wouldn't use One in this context, as redz so succinctly illustrated. It would remain Susan and I, as etiquette would demand you put the other person first, colloquially you could use me and Susan, but you wouldn't hear the Queen use that.....

For example could you imagine the Queen saying;

One and Philip will be dining at Noon.

Or

Philip and I shall be dining at Noon.

If she was dining alone or refering to herself only then:

One will be dining at Noon.

Would be acceptable.
 
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Castiel said:
You wouldn't use One in this context, as redz so succinctly illustrated. It would remain Susan and I, as etiquette would demand you put the other person first, colloquially you could use me and Susan, but you wouldn't hear the Queen use that.....

For example could you imagine the Queen saying;

One and Philip will be dining at Noon.

Or

Philip and I shall be dining at Noon.

If she was dining alone or refering to herself only then:

One will be dining at Noon.

Would be acceptable.
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Nicely put, but 'me and Susan are here' equals 'me is here', but 'I and Susan are here' equals 'I am here'....I think?

Language is funny!! :)
 
Quink said:
Nicely put, but 'me and Susan are here' equals 'me is here', but 'I and Susan are here' equals 'I am here'....I think?

Language is funny!! :)
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Me and Susan are here would be the same as saying I'm here, you wouldn't say Me is here in any context tbh.....

Susan and I are here would be correct but you would normally say We are here, but many people would commonly say Me and Susan.

And yes language is funny, particularly the convoluted and often contradictory English Language.
 
In the example, the pronoun I, together with the proper noun Susan, forms the subject of the sentence, so you need to use I rather than me.



Use the pronoun me, along with other objective pronouns such as us, him, her, you, and them, when the pronoun is the object of a verb:

* Danny thanked them.
* The dog followed John and me to the door.

In that example, the pronoun me, together with the proper noun John, forms the object of the verb follow, so you need to use me rather than I.



Use the pronoun me, along with other objective pronouns such as us, him, her, you, and them, when the pronoun is the object of a preposition:

* Rose spent the day with Jake and me.

Me, together with Jake, forms the object of the preposition with, so you need to use the pronoun me rather than the pronoun I.
 
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Castiel said:
There is a difference between formal and informal usage in language, particularly English. But in grammatically correct formal usage you would always put yourself second in reference.
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Formal and informal has nothing to do with it, it's to do with being the subject or the object. Saying "me and Susan did x" is just wrong. Just take out Susan from the equation to test, you'd never say "me did x" would you?
 
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