Users Poke Fun at Microsoft's First Windows 8.1 Ad Showing the Start Button

I'd find Windows 8 a lot more usable if the search wasn't utter trash.

Not quite sure what you mean by that, but the only gripe I had was that it wasn't unified (needed to choose, apps/settings/files). 8.1 has addressed that.
 
Not quite sure what you mean by that, but the only gripe I had was that it wasn't unified (needed to choose, apps/settings/files). 8.1 has addressed that.

It doesn't sort the results in anything other than it's own weird order, based possibly around whether the results are in the Start screen already. I had VS2012 installed briefly which came with its own developer command prompt. Hitting the Start key, typing "cmd" would always bring that up above the actual command prompt, no matter how many times I picked the result I wanted from the list.

Maybe my install is acting up but I'm pretty sure search which adapts to how you use is a thing that other platforms have mastered now.
 
Yeah on your surface pro im sure its great on a real pc with real users in a business environment even with the best connections and remote support its a nightmare, have you ever tried doing a remote desktop over an at best slow internet connection waiting for for the new tiles system to draw just so you can get a command prompt up to run a ping? its a nightmare yeah sure keep it on tablets and phones but please give us back our real start button so we can do our jobs effectively not all users are just users

If you knew what you were doing, you'd know that if you right click on the start area (bottom left corner you hover the mouse cursor to bring up the start menu) a context menu comes up that gives you multiple administrative/power user options including 2 entries for command prompt, the regular and one with admin rights.

So maybe you should address you own shortcomings as a supposed computer technician?
 
If you knew what you were doing, you'd know that if you right click on the start area (bottom left corner you hover the mouse cursor to bring up the start menu) a context menu comes up that gives you multiple administrative/power user options including 2 entries for command prompt, the regular and one with admin rights.

So maybe you should address you own shortcomings as a supposed computer technician?

Or just Win+X ;)

could say that about 3.11 UI or dos, it wasn't broke but it was still changed

nothing stays the same forever.

DOS was "broken" moving forward, as there was no real way to interface with a mouse, nor any way to multitask.

3.11 to 95 was at least a smooth transition, as you could still launch progman.exe on 95.
 
Collectively on a PC it has to be the worst UI since DOS. No one would consider switching back and forth between two OS's on W8 to be a slicker UI than Apple would create yet they self appointed their tablets to be in competition with Apple prior to having any proof of success. That's called right royally sticking your kneck out and setting yourself up for a fall.

My prediction will be that metro esq start screen will be killed off, proper start menu back but with some live elements and tablet apps will be wrapped up in a new windows gadgets type interface on the desktop. The RT will make a come back under some other moniker with zero software licensing cost and made by almost every no brand chineese firm to create cheap as chips models to get them in peoples hands.
 
DOS was "broken" moving forward, as there was no real way to interface with a mouse, nor any way to multitask.

3.11 to 95 was at least a smooth transition, as you could still launch progman.exe on 95.
but where you think DOS was "broken" other people may not..

to me all the windows from 95 to win7 was "broken" as I had to use 3rd party programs to change the UI to make it easier for me to use. with win8/8.1 I don't need to use 3rd party programs to change the UI

3.11 to 95 people moaned about that still even tho you could still launch the 3.11 UI

has I said nothing stays the same forever.
 
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I'll be glad when this issue goes the way of UAC, which we don't tend to hear much of these days. All it does is encourage gratuitous snarky comments from both sides of the fence.

It is a junk article based on Youtube comments, of all things. If you enjoy reading that sort of stuff, then fine, but does it really merit an entire thread of its own?
 
but where you think DOS was "broken" other people may not..

to me all the windows from 95 to win7 was "broken" as I had to use 3rd party programs to change the UI to make it easier for me to use. with win8/8.1 I don't need to use 3rd party programs to change the UI

3.11 to 95 people moaned about that still even tho you could still launch the 3.11 UI

has I said nothing stays the same forever.

Just because it suits you does not mean it suits everyone. I run Windows 8 on my laptop (and will run 8.1), but I prefer Windows 7 on both my home PC and Work PC.

The fact that Program Manager was replaced, I don't remember there being any real complaints, not to the same degree as with the new Start Screen. Also, even if you didn't like it, there is a way to install Windows 95 with the Windows 3.1 UI. (Run Setup95.exe and go Custom.) You were not Forced into the new way of working, (Windows 8 does not allow a Windows 7 UI install) plus the Start Screen feels jarring to use (though I think this is improved in 8.1 with Start Screen backgrounds?), the Start Menu does not.

Now with regards to DOS, there is still a DOS prompt. Type "cmd" and press enter. So if you like using commands to do things, that functionality has not been lost.
 
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Just because it suits you does not mean it suits everyone. I run Windows 8 on my laptop (and will run 8.1), but I prefer Windows 7 on both my home PC and Work PC.

The fact that Program Manager was replaced, I don't remember there being any real complaints, not to the same degree as with the new Start Screen. Also, even if you didn't like it, there is a way to install Windows 95 with the Windows 3.1 UI. (Run Setup95.exe and go Custom.) You were not Forced into the new way of working, (Windows 8 does not allow a Windows 7 UI install) plus the Start Screen feels jarring to use (though I think this is improved in 8.1 with Start Screen backgrounds?), the Start Menu does not.

Now with regards to DOS, there is still a DOS prompt. Type "cmd" and press enter. So if you like using commands to do things, that functionality has not been lost.

I find it funny there are a lot more new posters making new threads complaining about Windows 8, and the same few names constantly jumping in to defend it.

Couple of big flaws in your statement, first is Win8 can be made to be like Win7 with third party Start mods if you REALLY NEED IT and even without its still very desktop usable, second nobody is forced to use Win8 or any OS so if you decide to install it or use it then it's your responsibility,lastly you are very naive if you think things will stay the same,things change,you either accept that or stay on an older OS,but bitching and moaning about it does no good.

I'm already for Win9,10,11 etc are you?..So it's not a case of me defending Win8 because nothing to defend,it's just another new OS with changes which happens all the time and it certainly won't be the last,nobody holds a gun to your head and says you must use it.

I was happy on DOS and hated Windows,however I accepted that DOS was history and Windows was the way forward even with all the changes over the decades.

I accepted and adapted its simple as that,fact is some people can't no matter how you dress it up or try to make it a Windows issue.

Roll on Win9 something new for me to use ,now is it that hard hell no :) .
 
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the Start Screen feels jarring to use (though I think this is improved in 8.1 with Start Screen backgrounds?), the Start Menu does not.

Now with regards to DOS, there is still a DOS prompt. Type "cmd" and press enter. So if you like using commands to do things, that functionality has not been lost.

You are right, with Windows 8 the whole "Start" experience did feel a bit disjointed from the desktop, but as you say, the ability to use your desktop background as the start screen background helps to tie the two together in a more seamless way. The addition of the start button on the task bar makes it far easier for mouse users (those who seem afraid of keyboard shortcuts) to get to the start menu without having to find a minuscule hot corner (and the Win-X menu for that matter). Windows 8 was fine with touch (or at least a multi-touch touchpad), but kind of off-putting with legacy input devices.

With regards to "DOS", there is no "DOS" prompt on Windows 8 (nor was there in Windows 7, Vista, XP or 2000 ;)) There is a command prompt (not DOS), but these days, you should be using the infinitely more powerful, more script-able, Powershell, even for remote work. Indeed, even to administer a lot of systems (such as Exchange 2007-2013) you can't even get to half of the features without knowing how to use Powershell.
 
The Start screen is faster, easier to manage & has nice live features which I find useful for my emails/updates etc.

After a year, I don't see how people are complaining, the Start Menu has been replaced with a better more useful feature. It takes about 10 minute to get used to, touch or mouse and you're away. All the most useful programs/games/applications can be pinned/moved/grouped however users like to do so, press the start button, click word, and it's there. No scrolling through a menu clicking into folders/drop downs.

I would rather not have the button there at all, as clicking 3 pixels below it is what we currently have to do anyway?!
 
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