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Using 690 GTX but can't see a sensible upgrade...

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I know the 690 is still a very good card so I should explain why I want to upgrade. First of all I use a 120Hz monitor so 120fps is the aim and despite only using 1080p resolution this can be difficult, even for the 690. Also the games I play are very demanding - rFactor 2, pCARS, Assetto Corsa, Arma 3 etc, so I need all the power I can get. I also play some less popular games which don't have SLI support and therefore a single 680 (half of the 690) isn't the best for this anymore.

I have a budget of around £800.

This might sound like a simple answer, but I have some complications to consider.

Problem number one - I have a Maximus V Gene motherboard, so any SLI/Crossfire setups will mean having the two cards sitting right next to each other. There is barely any space at all between the two PCI-E slots so this will affect temps and any cards with extra large coolers are out of the question. I do have a good case though (Silverstone FT02), so the airflow is decent at least.

Problem number two - I only have a 750W PSU, however my PC is very much 'barebones' - it has a motherboard, CPU, RAM, GPU, a single SSD and the case fans, nothing else. This size of PSU is fine for the 690, and maybe for 780 SLI, but I doubt it would be enough for AMD cards.


Looking at the options,

780 SLI (£800) - A performance increase but not huge. Not sure if two reference coolers would be best or something like EVGA ACX.

780 Ti (£520) - Only a single GPU so a step back in performance (apart from in games which weren't using SLI).

780 Ti SLI (£1000) - Nice performance increase but well over budget.

R9 290 Crossfire (£640) - This is an option I'm seriously thinking about as it seems 290's in Crossfire are very powerful and often ahead of 780 SLI despite being £70 cheaper per card. So the price is good, but the reference cooler is a joke and I don't know how well third party coolers would work with my motherboard (being so close together). It's the type of thing I wish I could 'try before buying'. Also my 750W PSU would be right on the limit with these, in fact I think I'd have to buy a new PSU with them so suddenly the price is heading back to £800.

R9 290x Crossfire (£840) - These are just over budget but again I'd probably need a new PSU which would put the cost closer to £1000.

R9 295x2 (£1100) - Probably the ideal solution for my setup (motherboard) but the price is just comical. Not sure of PSU requirements but I assume it is less than two 290x's.


And that's about it. I think the main problem for my current situation is NVIDIA's lack of a new dual-GPU card. If they released the GTX 790 for £800/£900 I would seriously consider that, but it doesn't exist yet, and their Titan Z which is coming soon is probably going to cost £2000. These kind of prices are just silly, even my £800 budget feels completely ridiculous, as was the £750 I spent on the 690 when it came out. :eek:

Sorry to be a bother, just looking for some input, and I think you guys are always the best for hardware questions. ;)
 
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Not read the whole post and stopped when I see what games you are playing. What CPU do you have? Those games you mention are sim's (as such) and are very heavy on the CPU.
 
Not read the whole post and stopped when I see what games you are playing. What CPU do you have? Those games you mention are sim's (as such) and are very heavy on the CPU.

I have a 3570k at 4.4Ghz.

I know a lot of the games are CPU limited, but for adding high levels of AA or post processing effects a more powerful GPU always seems to help.
 
None of your options seem like a big enough upgrade or decent bang for buck considering you already have a 690. Given you'll be spending so much, why not wait till the 800 series and see what you can get then?

From what you've said regarding your motherboard SLI or crossfire will make your system a lot noisier and hotter, so your options are limited there too.

I'd stick with what you have for a few more months till the 800 series, if you have to turn down the odd setting to be happy till then, I'm sure it'll be worth your time to wait a little.
 
I have a 3570k at 4.4Ghz.

I know a lot of the games are CPU limited, but for adding high levels of AA or post processing effects a more powerful GPU always seems to help.

the 3570k limits my cards, but they still get very good FPS at ultra settings(100avg or so), even 1 670 is enough for most the games I have that don't have SLI support and I fiddle with Nvidia inspector to see if I can get SLI working in them anyway.

Gotta say upgrade that CPU it's holding back the GPU usage on both cores of your 690 just like it does with both my 670's. go for a 2600k or 3770k and it will unleash more performance. That's exactly what I'm going to do for a fraction of the price of new GPU's.

Do you have an SSD ? it can really help the performance of some of the games you play especially arma3
And you did not state what ram and how much you had... I'm hoping it's not less than 8GB ;) but more ram can help SLI too.
 
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I have a 3570k at 4.4Ghz.

I know a lot of the games are CPU limited, but for adding high levels of AA or post processing effects a more powerful GPU always seems to help.
That may be so, but for the games you mentioned you are playing, I honestly don't think it's worth upgrading from your GTX690 just yea, as the limitation would still generally largely be CPU limited rather than GPU limited, especially for 120Hz monitor.
 
Those games are cpu intensive bud, arma 3 especially, I'd keep what you have and get yourself a 3770k and put the rest to a Maxwell upgrade when released, or, failing that, get yourself a 4770k and upgrade the system to haswell.
 
A 780Ti is near same as 2x670/680's in some games/benches (looses/draws/wins), and 2x670/680's will be faster than a 690 and have 2x VRam so 1 780Ti 3GB would not be bad but a sidestep IMO.

SSD will help games load faster, do not see how it can help FPS, game is loaded form SSD/HDD to Ram
 
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A 780Ti is near same as 670/680 is some games/benches (looses/draws/wins), and 2x670/680's will be faster than a 690 and have 2x VRam so 1 780Ti 3GB would not be bad but a sidestep IMO.

SSD will, help games load faster, do not see how it can help FPS, game is loaded form SSD/HDD to Ram

i dont know much about this but in this benchmarks, http://www.ocaholic.ch/modules/smartsection/item.php?itemid=1134&page=7, there is a good bit difference between a 680 and 780. also ive noticed more than a few people happy and surprised and the jump between the 2 cards. mind you im probably missing something here.
 
the way you worded it was and i do quote "A 780Ti is near same as 670/680 is some games/benches (looses/draws/wins), and 2x670/680's will be faster than a 690 " which to me makes it sound as though a 670/680 is faster than a 780ti HOWEVER 670/680 is faster than a 690. common sense doesnt prevail to people who may not know and end up even more confused. seems to be quite a trait there.

i suggest giving advice to people you make it quite clear exactly what you mean as i really was thrown by that as it made no sense whatsoever
 
And that was the reason I had you on ignore and should have left you there TBH.

You were beyond help in your multiple threads with AMD issues.

You do not need suggest or dictate jack to anyone, typos are easy to make and you are far from perfect or even half clued up and did some right dumb money/time wasting GPU sidegrades.

You simply talk nonsense for the sake of it esp. to me it would seem even after I sent you a PM to try help you I got barked at in forum.

Since you are on your soapbox about errors, how about you learn some basic English skills like Capitalisation, Punctuation and new Sentences.

Bye, Bye!
 
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