Using the word 'gay' as a slur

[starfighter]

Purpose is a label created by the human mind. How was there purpose or intention at the point the first single cell lifeform came into being?

To have purpose at this most early stage of life is to imply that there was an outside force.

Agggh, no no no.


Why are you here? because your dad didn't have sex with a tree or watermelon, that wouldnt have yeilded very good results would it. If your dad were gay and a lesser inteligent creature he might well do. However humans now have the ability to reason ontop of these basic instics. So it is a disadvantage to furthering your genes but not as much as it once was.

When we say meaning, we don't mean it in some philosopical way.
DNA makes animal have 2 eyes, animal can see better, gets more food, grows strong, mates with other 2 eyed animal, babies have 2 eyes. its just the way evolution works, you try and get the best mate to have the best kids or you marry a midget or something and end up with dwarfs that get run over cos no one can see them or something. Not good.

You can have your own meaning in life also with no relation to this obviously. it isnt either or.

 

[MookJong]

When we say meaning, we don't mean it in some philosophical way.

What other way can meaning be expressed but in a philosophical way? Meanings exists only within the mind. Evolution is a science and science does not attach meanings or judgements it simply tries to find the logic.

The urge you have to reproduce is just another strand of natural selection, albeit probably the most fundamental one but this still does not make it any more important or give it meaning.

 

[starfighter]

But it does have meaning, without that urge, as I have said you would be unable to determin who is the best mate for you and your kids would be disadvantaged. this is not something that is "man made", it is fact, it is the same for animals also. even more so as they dont have intelligence to reason and are controlled by said urges.

you are designed to survive, like it or not. (design = evolution)

I agree that it isn't necaserraly a bad thing, perhaps it will lead to better evolution, but unlikely. more of a defect.

 

[peetee]

Doesnt anyone else share my feeling in that gays are infact an evolution - they are our attempt at evolving in a way to help stop our over population of the planet.

 

[MookJong]

you are designed to survive, like it or not. (design = evolution)

Where is Tefal when you need him.....you can't let him get away with that!

Design and evolution are very much different things.

Evoloution is a process of random mutation, there is no guiding force behind it. It looks that way because only the animals suited to their environment survive thus it looks like they were designed for that environment.

 

[sarutobi]

Doesnt anyone else share my feeling in that gays are infact an evolution - they are our attempt at evolving in a way to help stop our over population of the planet.

umm....no. That could only happen through some people long ago making a concious decision to become gay in fear of over-population and that fear carrying on into the next generations. This fear would then have to be re-established early on in life.

And i dont know about you, but neither me nor anyone I know (who may or may not be gay) have ever had an actual fear of over-population. Its not an immediate direct threat to us so we dont fear it.

 

[jrodga2k5]

Used to be common place about 6-8 years ago when I was at school, and I still use it nowadays. Screw this PC bs, it's soo gay !!!!

Victory my friend......Victory

 

[RoboCod]

This evolution and species survival BS is laughable. We're self concious beings, generally we don't **** to pro-create. Primarily we copulate for fun/love/enjoyment. It just so happens that some people prefer to do the fun/love/enjoyment with the same sex. Quit trying to scientifically explain it.

 

[v0n]

First, and foremost - please do understand genesis of the word. This thread is gay because it's trivial, merry, jolly - it's of jesty tone, no significance and very little importance. Not because we expect it to engage in penetration of male rectum with help of aftermarket lubricant in order to fulfill its sexual urges. That's why we say something is gay, instead of referring to it as "it's sooooooo homophile". Such is the trouble with "borrowed" words and multiple meanings, that it always "offends" those who don't fully grasp the subject.

Being upset about someone saying something is gay, is almost as preposterous as if migrants from Poland were upset about someone saying they would touch something with "a barge Pole". And just like no one is going to rename "Shoe Polish" to "Leather Rejuvenation Creme" just to avoid being called xenophobe, one shouldn't even attempt to consider swapping word "gay" for anything else to avoid being called homophobe. The original meaning of word gay shall remain the same, and if Gays don't like it, they should have thought of it earlier and not insist on borrowing this, somewhat stupid and archaic adjective for their own.

And that brings me to the second "beef" I have. I see people notoriously calling examples of racial prejudice, xenophobia, anti-semitism etc to compare it to gays and homophobia. I think we should put an end to it. Being homosexual is a sexual preference. A sexual behaviour. It's not culture, it is society (or it's part). It's sexual preference. One that is relatively harmless and as such it's generally accepted within society and met with tolerance. But for all intents and purposes it's just like dendrophiliac craving to plug a tree, or hyphephilia induced urge to hump rubber dolls. Maybe more popular, maybe more mainstream, but still, sexual preference.

Having that in mind, raving angrily about "gay rights" or moaning about how you and your buddy can't be "gay in public" is just like S&M enthusiast complaining people don't appreciate them walking their partner to supermarket on a leash zipped up top to bottom in latex or old ladies throwning at coprolalic swearing profusely to himself on a bus stop. Of course peple will be uneasy about two men kissing - most of them would be just as grumpy if it were dude and a girl going deep throat tongue penetration in the middle of the pavement. You know those old ladies would be shocked. But in general - most of us, in 21st century, don't give a flying fig what people do in their bedroom. That's the truth. So, stop being such attention tarts and behave. Stop comparing yourselves to jews, ethnic and religious minorities - shame on you - you make the actual serious crime of prejudice in this world sound, pun intented - gay (as in - belittlingly trivial and jocund).

And who the <beep> cares anyway ??

 

[Monkey Puzzle]

Where is Tefal when you need him.....you can't let him get away with that!

Design and evolution are very much different things.

Evoloution is a process of random mutation, there is no guiding force behind it. It looks that way because only the animals suited to their environment survive thus it looks like they were designed for that environment.

Actually, there is in the sense that though we mutate (at a finely regulated rate), and hence there is randomness in the process of evolution, natural selection is very much a guiding force of selecting out those genetic mutations that are beneficial to survival. Calling the whole process unguided is incorrect.

 

[Helium_Junkie]

If I were gay, I would find this offensive.

This is the very nature of PC. Being offended on behalf of someone else who may not be.

I know gay people who call things gay in a derogative fashion. They don't care, who the hell are you to tell everyone how they feel?

 

[fluiduk]

I am a gay! And I dont care!

I spend my time worrying about more important things! Where the hell is my 'guy-liner' and George Michael Annual

 

[Samione]

First, and foremost - please do understand genesis of the word. This thread is gay because it's trivial, merry, jolly - it's of jesty tone, no significance and very little importance. Not because we expect it to engage in penetration of male rectum with help of aftermarket lubricant in order to fulfill its sexual urges. That's why we say something is gay, instead of referring to it as "it's sooooooo homophile". Such is the trouble with "borrowed" words and multiple meanings, that it always "offends" those who don't fully grasp the subject.

Being upset about someone saying something is gay, is almost as preposterous as if migrants from Poland were upset about someone saying they would touch something with "a barge Pole". And just like no one is going to rename "Shoe Polish" to "Leather Rejuvenation Creme" just to avoid being called xenophobe, one shouldn't even attempt to consider swapping word "gay" for anything else to avoid being called homophobe. The original meaning of word gay shall remain the same, and if Gays don't like it, they should have thought of it earlier and not insist on borrowing this, somewhat stupid and archaic adjective for their own.

And that brings me to the second "beef" I have. I see people notoriously calling examples of racial prejudice, xenophobia, anti-semitism etc to compare it to gays and homophobia. I think we should put an end to it. Being homosexual is a sexual preference. A sexual behaviour. It's not culture, it is society (or it's part). It's sexual preference. One that is relatively harmless and as such it's generally accepted within society and met with tolerance. But for all intents and purposes it's just like dendrophiliac craving to plug a tree, or hyphephilia induced urge to hump rubber dolls. Maybe more popular, maybe more mainstream, but still, sexual preference.

Having that in mind, raving angrily about "gay rights" or moaning about how you and your buddy can't be "gay in public" is just like S&M enthusiast complaining people don't appreciate them walking their partner to supermarket on a leash zipped up top to bottom in latex or old ladies throwning at coprolalic swearing profusely to himself on a bus stop. Of course peple will be uneasy about two men kissing - most of them would be just as grumpy if it were dude and a girl going deep throat tongue penetration in the middle of the pavement. You know those old ladies would be shocked. But in general - most of us, in 21st century, don't give a flying fig what people do in their bedroom. That's the truth. So, stop being such attention tarts and behave. Stop comparing yourselves to jews, ethnic and religious minorities - shame on you - you make the actual serious crime of prejudice in this world sound, pun intented - gay (as in - belittlingly trivial and jocund).

And who the <beep> cares anyway ??

How many ****ing times, people do not choose to be gay. Therefore 90% of what you just typed is pure ********.

 

[fluiduk]

That post has peeved me a bit to! Being gay is firstly not a choice and secondly is not as simple as who I just have sex with. Is a heterosexual relationship purely based on sex?

 

[peetee]

Is a heterosexual relationship purely based on sex?

yea, unless you're too sensitive or emotional, then its safe to say you're not hetrosexual, you are infact a closet homosexual.

 

[pitchfork]

And who the <beep> cares anyway ??

It's just to annoy homophobes.
You wouldn't believe the amount of thick people who've called me a bender because I like to dress up and go to gay clubs (i'm not gay or bi, I like the scene) and I find it stupid.
"Oi sausage jockey"
It's nearly always chavs, they hate having stuff like that up so I say good, they've been bought up by thick people to say being gay is wrong, probably immigrants are bad, and that you should never get a proper education just get a trade or work in a factory.

 

[Monkey Puzzle]

First, and foremost - please do understand genesis of the word. This thread is gay because it's trivial, merry, jolly - it's of jesty tone, no significance and very little importance. Not because we expect it to engage in penetration of male rectum with help of aftermarket lubricant in order to fulfill its sexual urges. That's why we say something is gay, instead of referring to it as "it's sooooooo homophile". Such is the trouble with "borrowed" words and multiple meanings, that it always "offends" those who don't fully grasp the subject.



Being upset about someone saying something is gay, is almost as preposterous as if migrants from Poland were upset about someone saying they would touch something with "a barge Pole". And just like no one is going to rename "Shoe Polish" to "Leather Rejuvenation Creme" just to avoid being called xenophobe, one shouldn't even attempt to consider swapping word "gay" for anything else to avoid being called homophobe. The original meaning of word gay shall remain the same, and if Gays don't like it, they should have thought of it earlier and not insist on borrowing this, somewhat stupid and archaic adjective for their own.

What are you blathering on about? Your example of Polish people not getting upset by use of the term pole (as in solid stick) or cleaning polish is meaningless, since neither of those terms are terms of abuse with negative connotations, and the thread is about using the term gay as a slur, not as in its original meaning.

And that brings me to the second "beef" I have. I see people notoriously calling examples of racial prejudice, xenophobia, anti-semitism etc to compare it to gays and homophobia. I think we should put an end to it. Being homosexual is a sexual preference. A sexual behaviour. It's not culture, it is society (or it's part). It's sexual preference. One that is relatively harmless and as such it's generally accepted within society and met with tolerance. But for all intents and purposes it's just like dendrophiliac craving to plug a tree, or hyphephilia induced urge to hump rubber dolls. Maybe more popular, maybe more mainstream, but still, sexual preference.

Having that in mind, raving angrily about "gay rights" or moaning about how you and your buddy can't be "gay in public" is just like S&M enthusiast complaining people don't appreciate them walking their partner to supermarket ona leash zipped up top to bottom in latex or old ladies throwning at coprolalic swearing profusely to himself on a bus stop. Most of us, in 21st century, don't give a flying fig what people do in their bedroom. That's the truth. So, stop being such attention tarts and behave. Stop comparing yourselves to jews, ethnic and religious minorities - shame on you - you make the actual serious crime of prejudice in this world sound, pun intented - gay (as in - belittlingly trivial and jocund).

And who the <beep> cares??

I'd guess those who are being looked down upon and discriminated against because of their sexual preference/sexuality. There may well be "attention seeking tarts", but there is also a history of genuine discrimination, which for some reason you don't seem to acknowledge.

 

[Samione]

Actually, there is in the sense that though we mutate (at a finely regulated rate), and hence there is randomness in the process of evolution, natural selection is very much a guiding force of selecting out those genetic mutations that are beneficial to survival. Calling the whole process unguided is incorrect.

You're completely misunderstanding terminology, you seem to think there is a guiding and intelligent force behind natural selection other than a species ability to survive it it's environment.

 

[MookJong]

Actually, there is in the sense that though we mutate (at a finely regulated rate), and hence there is randomness in the process of evolution, natural selection is very much a guiding force of selecting out those genetic mutations that are beneficial to survival. Calling the whole process unguided is incorrect.

There is nothing guiding it at all, your trying to put a human slant on it. The whole idea is it's NATURAL selection i.e. it happens on it's own without any influence.

 

[Banzai_Joe]

if you're offended by words on a forum, i think being called gay is the least of your worries.

I've not read much past this post, but A-MEN to the quote above.

Get a grip.....get a life....stops inciting gayness.....or riots....or whatever.

Its a simple freaking word G-A-Y!!! big deal.

Back in the day it meant 'happy', now it means you're a 'homo' so what?!

If i wanted to offend someone and if they were gay, i certainly would not use 'gay' in my insulting statement.
Fag is far better!

'Gay' is probably the politest way of describing someone who is a homosexual. Actually calling someone a 'homo' is far more likely to upset such a person than the word 'gay'.

Its ridiculous. But then, due to their pansy, feminine nature, they'd probably get upset at anything you said, if you slightly raised your voice.

Here endeth the sermon!