Using the word 'gay' as a slur

stop being so sensitive you big poof!

gay = happy, the homos stole it from us and corrupted it :( (just like the rainbow and elephants)

k.Jacko said:
edit: not religious in the slightest. Used to be very homophobic, not any more, i'll tolerate them, but i don't thin its natural one little bit.
It has to be a design flaw in nature, if not and we were all gay, then we wouldn't last too long would we? with no more kids being born etc.
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birth control, it's natures way of ensuring we don't overpopulate ourselves, of course being gay is abnormal, the entire point of the reproductive organs is to reproduce, not to ram it in each others pooper XD
 
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k.Jacko said:
If 'gay' supposedly means homosexual nowadays, why do we hear and see things that speak of 'gay and lesbiens'? Is 'gay' meant to mean just homosexual men?
I've heard plenty of women refer to themselves as gay (rug munchers).
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It can mean either, but it is usually used to describe homosexual men.

edit: not religious in the slightest. Used to be very homophobic, not any more, i'll tolerate them, but i don't thin its natural one little bit.
It has to be a design flaw in nature...
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If it's a design flaw by nature. then it is natural. You've just contradicted yourself. Homosexuality has been observed in many species in the animal kingdom. If how animals act living in the wild isn't natural then I don't know what is.
 
KittensCake said:
If it's a design flaw by nature. then it is natural. You've just contradicted yourself. Homosexuality has been observed in many species in the animal kingdom. If how animals act living in the wild isn't natural then I don't know what is.
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Stop being pedantic. I'm sure you know what i was meaning.

Physical design is that man slams woman, not man slams man!
Its the wiring up top that makes man fancy man and woman fancy woman.
Obviously we can't prove either way whats natural and not. But look at the evidence so far, physically, it doesn't seem like homosexuality should exist. Mentally is a different matter.
Does that make homosexulity a mental disease? ;)
 
KittensCake said:
How we were physically designed to procreate has no bearing on whether or not homosexuality is natural.
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whether it should be considered 'normal' or not is, of course, another matter ;)

k.Jacko said:
Does that make homosexulity a mental disease? ;)
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scientists have been ale to 'flick a switch' in the brain of fruit flies to turn them into 'homosexuals' (and back again). it would therefore suggest it is definitely mental!
 
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the gay thing, This was on TV a while back, And i agree the term gay being used as a negative isn't help with the homophobic views in the world.

Not that we'll beable to stop it, But I can see the problem.
 
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vincent1989 said:
scientists have been ale to 'flick a switch' in the brain of fruit flies to turn them into 'homosexuals' (and back again). it would therefore suggest it is definitely mental!
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Nobody has demonstrated a sole cause for sexual orientation. There is evidence for a number a different causes and influences, including a combination of many of these factors. Regardless though, the fact that they can change the sexuality of flies by altering their brains doesn't mean it's caused or influenced purely by psychology or brain structure, and even if it was in the case of flies, it's entirely possible that it's a more complex issue in humans and other higher level life forms.
 
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KittensCake said:
Nobody has demonstrated a sole cause for sexual orientation. There is evidence for a number a different causes and influences, including a combination of many of these factors. Regardless though, the fact that they can change the sexuality of flies by altering their brains doesn't mean it's caused or influenced purely by psychology or brain structure, and even if it was in the case of flies, it's entirely possible that it's a more complex issue in humans and other higher level life forms.
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i think that being able to change the sexual orientation of flies simply by changing something in the brain does, in fact, prove that it is completely down to brain structure, and a brain is fundamentally a brain, across all species.
 
vincent1989 said:
i think that being able to change the sexual orientation of flies simply by changing something in the brain does, in fact, prove that it is completely down to brain structure, and a brain is fundamentally a brain, across all species.
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No. Just, no.

KittensCake was spot on. And a brain is not 'just a brain. It gets immencely more complicated amongst taxonomic groupings and there is even a large difference for merely primates.
 
Nitefly said:
No. Just, no.

KittensCake was spot on. And a brain is not 'just a brain. It gets immencely more complicated amongst taxonomic groupings and there is even a large difference for merely primates.
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of course it does, and i wasn't denying that, but at fundamental levels all brains control the same things. yes, of course that 'switch' may well be more complicated, but that doesn't mean it's not there ;);)
 
vincent1989 said:
of course it does, and i wasn't denying that, but at fundamental levels all brains control the same things. yes, of course that 'switch' may well be more complicated, but that doesn't mean it's not there ;);)
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Thats better :)

If anything gayness has been shown to be somewhat genetically based but how responsible it is remains unknown.
 
I personally think homosexuality is a life style choice. But I always wonder if there is more to it, Why do gay men's voices sound so feminine? Why do they walk and hold themselves with such a feminine posture? I know not all men do this, But a hell of a lot do.

I think there are different variations, Some who chose the life style(Less likely to be feminine) And then, Possibly a hormonal imbalance, Which would explain the feminine way a lot of homosexual act.
 
Quite recently scientists essentially uncovered a sort of gay gene, I saw sort of because it is a "man loving gene". Basically both male and females *can* have this gene. They have identified a causal link between having the gene and women having more kids/men being gay. Just having the gene isn't enough but it's a good indicator!

As for the word "gay" as a slur, I personally use it to mean something isn't right. Not that I specifically think gay men are wrong, but probably through growing up the word just meant wrong.
 
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