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V-sync causes stutter?

I have a thread where i'm suffering this problem. I also have some friends who have the exact same problems. The consistent elements we have is that we all have asus motherboards and using 64bit operating systems. The problem is rectified by using the xbox controller. We have narrowed the issue down to being motherboard related in some way.
I'll link you to my old post so you get an idea of what i've tried previously to solve the problem.

http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=17995821&highlight=username_Spazzfish

What does help but not remove the problem is enabling triple buffering, enabling v-sync and having a mouse (like the G5) that lets you set the report rate to 1000.
However I won't know if this applies to you yet until you try out an xbox 360 controller
 
Spazzfish said:
I have a thread where i'm suffering this problem. I also have some friends who have the exact same problems. The consistent elements we have is that we all have asus motherboards and using 64bit operating systems. The problem is rectified by using the xbox controller. We have narrowed the issue down to being motherboard related in some way.
I'll link you to my old post so you get an idea of what i've tried previously to solve the problem.

http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=17995821&highlight=username_Spazzfish

What does help but not remove the problem is enabling triple buffering, enabling v-sync and having a mouse (like the G5) that lets you set the report rate to 1000.
However I won't know if this applies to you yet until you try out an xbox 360 controller
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I think i may push the boat out then and get one, or try and lend one.
I dont have my razor copperhead drivers installed atm either, i never thought this could be an issue but i guess i could try.
 
Spazzfish said:
What does help but not remove the problem is enabling triple buffering, enabling v-sync and having a mouse (like the G5) that lets you set the report rate to 1000.
However I won't know if this applies to you yet until you try out an xbox 360 controller
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This is a good call reagrding the report rate also.
 
Abit of a interesting find here, i've never actually noticed this before.
But whilst ive been playing aion tonight when it does stutter, the sound slightly crackles, not much but when it slightly freezes its noticable.

I dont have any sound drivers on atm, as i tried updating them earlier but failed as there seems to be no support for win 7 at all. And i've noticed when i boot up windows it crackles for a second when the desktop is loading.

I'm currently using onboard sound which requires soundblaster blackhawk drivers.
Most drivers are atleast one year old. Like i said no support :)

So either it is the sound driver? Or something is interupting both of these?
 
unknownsock said:
Abit of a interesting find here, i've never actually noticed this before.
But whilst ive been playing aion tonight when it does stutter, the sound slightly crackles, not much but when it slightly freezes its noticable.

I dont have any sound drivers on atm, as i tried updating them earlier but failed as there seems to be no support for win 7 at all. And i've noticed when i boot up windows it crackles for a second when the desktop is loading.

I'm currently using onboard sound which requires soundblaster blackhawk drivers.
Most drivers are atleast one year old. Like i said no support :)

So either it is the sound driver? Or something is interupting both of these?
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Sounds like your just getting interference through your on board sound card. I don't know anyone who uses on board sound who doesn't get some sort of crackle or hum or whine of some description. I disabled the on board sound through bios and have a dedicated soundcard and still have a stuttering issue. Friends who have the same problem vary between onboard and dedicated cards. I personally don't think that is the problem.
 
Spazzfish said:
Sounds like your just getting interference through your on board sound card. I don't know anyone who uses on board sound who doesn't get some sort of crackle or hum or whine of some description. I disabled the on board sound through bios and have a dedicated soundcard and still have a stuttering issue. Friends who have the same problem vary between onboard and dedicated cards. I personally don't think that is the problem.
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Maybe not but from months of googling, the top problems seem to be wireless NIC cards and sound drivers/cards etc.
 
The funny thing is, i may have fixed this?
I completely forgot about D3D overrider that comes with rivatuner, so i enabled and forced v-sync and triple buffering, this seemed to smooth is out, then i cranked up AA within the ATI panel to x8, with edge detect, and from what i can see COD4 on the training mission seems immaculate.
I've just been crawling next to some grass observing how its passing through some wood in the way, i did not see one ounce of stutter..

Ill try with some more games and keep you posted.

Edit:
Aion - Still the same.
WoW - 90% seems to have gone, still there very very slightly but has seemed to improve a lot.
ArmA 2 - Runs a tad bit better, although i can still see it.

Ill do more tomorow, although it think its still there, the mass amount of AA and forced v-sync and triple buffering, just makes it less noticable.
Although thats the plan i guess. I think its safe to say my hardware is 100% fine, and it should be software. Most likely anyway.
 
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unknownsock said:
The funny thing is, i may have fixed this?
I completely forgot about D3D overrider that comes with rivatuner, so i enabled and forced v-sync and triple buffering, this seemed to smooth is out, then i cranked up AA within the ATI panel to x8, with edge detect, and from what i can see COD4 on the training mission seems immaculate.
I've just been crawling next to some grass observing how its passing through some wood in the way, i did not see one ounce of stutter..

Ill try with some more games and keep you posted.

Edit:
Aion - Still the same.
WoW - 90% seems to have gone, still there very very slightly but has seemed to improve a lot.
ArmA 2 - Runs a tad bit better, although i can still see it.

Ill do more tomorow, although it think its still there, the mass amount of AA and forced v-sync and triple buffering, just makes it less noticable.
Although thats the plan i guess. I think its safe to say my hardware is 100% fine, and it should be software. Most likely anyway.
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To me, this sounds like you have reduced the framerate below the Vsync limit so the screen isn't displaying multiple frames (or as many multiple frames).

This whole thread reminds me why I don't use Vsync, but luckily the tearing doesn't bother me.

What I find most annoying about Vsync is the increased input lag.

To the OP - what happens when you disable Vsync? Do all the stutters etc. go away?
 
Jimbo Mahoney said:
To me, this sounds like you have reduced the framerate below the Vsync limit so the screen isn't displaying multiple frames (or as many multiple frames).

This whole thread reminds me why I don't use Vsync, but luckily the tearing doesn't bother me.

What I find most annoying about Vsync is the increased input lag.

To the OP - what happens when you disable Vsync? Do all the stutters etc. go away?
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Well, if v-sync off caused me no stutter do you really think I'd create this this thread? :)

I do usually get massive tearing so V-sync actually makes it better, although what i've just realised is with D3D override, triple buffering also causes massive input lag. :o

Although i seemed to have found how to hide it it's still there.
Another day of googling it seems :)
 
what kind of fps are you getting?
if you're using fraps, can you see the frame rate drop at certain points.
you also said that your cpu is at stock, 2.5ghz, maybe giving that a little overclock might help, as it might be throttling your 5870?
 
My FPS is a constant 60 with v-sync etc, no FPS drops, just stutter.
I checked via fraps and in games consoles.

I checked my CPU at stock, @ 3.0 and 3.4. All the same.
And even at stock theres no bottleneck.
As again ive tested :) 15k GPU, in 3dmark vantage, on performance with everything at stock.

Is there anyway to disable all unecessary services and windows background apps, similiar to safe mode? So i can test this is not to do with the OS?
Or can i run in safe mode and force my ATI driver to start up?

As if this eliminated this would rule its a software problem.
 
I'm thinking bad layout of interupts and usb for your inputs. you disabled unused items like printer port, serial ports etc in bios? that frees up a few low level resources. also check the sound card is in a none linked slot to the vid card.
 
Andric said:
I'm thinking bad layout of interupts and usb for your inputs. you disabled unused items like printer port, serial ports etc in bios? that frees up a few low level resources. also check the sound card is in a none linked slot to the vid card.
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This has come to mind several times now, but google has failed me.
As it does seem everythings working but something out of sync or just interupting it.

But how the hell do i change IRQ's etc? I need to disable ACPI right, from what i've read i can only do this upon a new install?

Ill try once more to disable as many options as i can. Several are already disabled in the BIOS.
 
have you tried to defragle the motherdisk?

just go into task manager and end processes manually, google something you're not sure of.
what anti-virus are you using, norton and mcafee always gave me problems, constantly scanning and updating, generally making my system less snappy, use nod if you can
 
Defragle the motherwhat? lol.
You mean defrag my primary hard disk?

Yea i can disable the process's, but i mean services also.

And i don't use any anti-virus.
 
thought - windows defender can run at bad times. go in to control panel and set it to run once a week or something realistic and set to run at a good time for you.

I disable printer ports and serial posts, ide as i only use sata and set it so the OS can reassign ports.
 
Andric said:
thought - windows defender can run at bad times. go in to control panel and set it to run once a week or something realistic and set to run at a good time for you.

I disable printer ports and serial posts, ide as i only use sata and set it so the OS can reassign ports.
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From what im aware of windows defender is disabled, same with my firewall.
I'll try disable everything tonight, tried it before but i may have missed some of those ports.

And weres the setting so the OS can reassign? :rolleyes:
 
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