Valve OS

So wait, is Valve's streaming stuff only going to be available on SteamOS?

I have no interest in building a steamOS PC, but would love the ability to stream games from my main gaming PC to the media PC in the living room. I thought this was how it was going, but sometimes what people say makes me think this is only going to be available on SteamOS...
 
I am looking forward to seeing what SteamOS has to offer and it can't be long now until they start sending out all different variants of the steam box units.

Here's what the prototype units consist of:

GPU: Some units with NVidia Titan, some GTX780, some GTX760, and some GTX660
CPU: Some boxes with Intel i7-4770, some i5-4570, and some i3
RAM: 16GB DDR3-1600 (CPU), 3GB GDDR5 (GPU)
Storage: 1TB/8GB Hybrid SSHD
Power supply: Internal 450w 80Plus Gold
Dimensions: approx. 12 x 12.4 x 2.9 inches high
 
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Wow, Gabes lovechild much, did I call your baby ugly or something? :rolleyes:
Someone's impressed with himself. Good for you.
Do you really think Valve are spending millions to give you something for free just because they're good guys?

No, they are doing it because the more people use the interface, the more they will spend with Steam anyway. This is, however, ideal for people like me. I have a big library of Steam games on my main gaming PC upstairs. I have a small, low-powered PC under the TV for streaming movies off a NAS, iplayer, web surfing on the TV etc.

If I can download a free OS (or even a free program, I'm not really that bothered about the OS part other than the possibilities for improved performance through low overheads) that means I can buy couch-playable games on Steam, and stream them to my living room where I can play with a 360 controller on a big sofa then I'm happy as you like.

Genuinely, if it works well I can see this affecting whether I bother to get one of the new generation of consoles or not. Obvious financial win for me (not buying a console, games are cheapers on PC), and given I'll be buying games from Steam I otherwise wouldn't, financial win for Valve.
 
I was thinking, I suppose I could put a lot of my gaming components in a HTPC case with steam os and use it like a console. Also, I think mediaportal runs on Linux, so it would be a console/HTPC.

I can then stick some more basic components in a smaller desktop and use for internet/office, other basic stuff.

Yeah, that sounds like a plan.
 
So wait, is Valve's streaming stuff only going to be available on SteamOS?

I have no interest in building a steamOS PC, but would love the ability to stream games from my main gaming PC to the media PC in the living room. I thought this was how it was going, but sometimes what people say makes me think this is only going to be available on SteamOS...
A client will install onto Windows for any games that aren't totally compatible with SteamOS (legacy titles basically). You can have your gaming rig in another room and stream it across to your living room / man cave.

It's difficult to do extremely robust KVM over network especially for high-FPS / refresh applications. I guess time will tell on that one. :)
 
Dont think it will come close to windows though.

Fingers crossed ;) Will be less clunky than Windows, more efficient and actually optimised for gaming as opposed to that DX lark. It's such a big ask though, interested to see what they come out with, massive job, but if anyone can do it . . .
 
I've tried quite a few Linux Distro's.. never again.

If games start coming out which are crippled on Windows or a SteamOS exclusive then I'll just return back to consoles.

I don't see the point of this OS apart from Valve trying to get a complete monopoly on the PC gaming market.
 
I don't see the point of this OS apart from Valve trying to get a complete monopoly on the PC gaming market.
I suppose Valve would like to get to a position where they can dominate any future Linux gaming market. Whilst anything new I think is a good idea I'm not sure Valves proprietary, restrictive and frankly expensive approach to PC gaming fit's particularly well with the general Linux ethos. That and as I say I'm struggling to see the point when the hardware requirements (& costs) are the same as any other gaming PC except it does less (if it's under a TV you're not even going to be using it for general mail/web/productivity stuff). To play non SteamOS games you have to buy the Windows version, have a second Windows based gaming PC and then stream it from there.. I can only imagine I must be missing something somewhere. I just wonder if Gabe has started believing his own publicity a little. :)
 
Oh I see, you're one of those odd "no one should have an opinion you don't agree with" types who gets all emotional, that's Ok, I get it now. SteamOS still sounds like it's just a fairly pointless plan to tie PC gamers into Steam to me, I've said I may be missing something and stated my reasons. You on the other hand have just had a bit of a hissy fit *shrug* No need to get all defensive and upset about it. Gabe, that's not you is it Gabe? :D
 
GabeN has said already that SteamOS is a direct reaction to Microsoft trying to force everything through their App store. That's the way things are going on Windows in the future and that means Steam as a platform is dead on Windows.

It'll be nice to see a 'good' consumer Linux distro (besides Ubuntu and Mint) which is ground-up designed for gaming. Once money starts flowing into Linux as a platform, we'll see much greater compatibility with other software suites.
 
I don't think Microsoft has ever made any attempt to suggest everything has to go through their store, could you see the publishers like EA going for that? Having said that I can see why Gabe might not like there being competition on Windows for a digital delivery store for games. Origin is at least from their point of view limited to EA games and there's no much they can do about that. Steam has all but managed to kill off the other gaming digital download stores. Ironic really that Valves near monopoly of digital downloads for gaming which enforces anti consumer policys like not being able to resell or loan the games you've paid top dollar for then complains about someone else having a digital download store. This just strikes me as an attempt to widen Steam DRM across Linux and effectively tie up the entire Linux gaming market for the future into one restrictive store.

PC gamers potentially having another widespread choice of where to buy digital downloads of games must have terrified his wallet. ;)

I still don't get why anyone would want to do this though. You need the same expensive hardware/PC and then you end up locked into Steam with no other options, can play fewer games by an order of magnitude, need a second gaming PC if you want to stream Windows games and still have a PC under the TV that can't do anything else. Why would anyone do that rather than use a Windows gaming PC or dedicated console with a much wider choice of games. I just really don't get it.

Still, I'm sure we'll all be happy enough to tinker with a new distro just for the geeky interest and from a technology standpoint its intriguing but as gaming platform it's a Linux based under TV DRM'd games console - or PS3 as it's otherwise known :D
 
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Choice.

I'll have my gaming PC with Windows on it, and my media PC with Steam OS on it.

If the streaming side of things works as well as hoped, I'll be able to play anything on my TV via the media PC - no need to faff around moving/ hooking my gaming PC up. What's not to like about that?
 
Choice.

I'll have my gaming PC with Windows on it, and my media PC with Steam OS on it.

If the streaming side of things works as well as hoped, I'll be able to play anything on my TV via the media PC - no need to faff around moving/ hooking my gaming PC up. What's not to like about that?
True enough although I'm not sure that's where Valve sees SteamOS. For it to be worth while they want people to buy SteamOS versions of games which leaves you having to have a fairly decent and expensive gaming PC under the TV, hence the whole Steambox thing. If you're going to spend £500 on something to go under the TV to play games locked in with DRM to one supplier wouldn't you just buy a console?

If you already have a windows PC and a media PC under the TV though I can see the streaming tech might be a bit of fun and fundamentally free so why not :)
 
I won't be bothering with it. Lets face it, they are going to be taking and selling our data, Steam.exe doing it is one thing let alone at kernel level!
 
Oh I see, you're one of those odd "no one should have an opinion you don't agree with" types who gets all emotional, that's Ok, I get it now. SteamOS still sounds like it's just a fairly pointless plan to tie PC gamers into Steam to me, I've said I may be missing something and stated my reasons. You on the other hand have just had a bit of a hissy fit *shrug* No need to get all defensive and upset about it. Gabe, that's not you is it Gabe? :D

Against my better judgement I guess I'll chip in again.

No, I'm not one of those. If you look back over the posts, you said you can't see why anyone would use it (claiming that Valve must think their customers are all gullible). I gave an example of someone (me) who does actually have a use for it.

You ignored that, called me "Gabe's love child" and a fan boy and restated that nobody could possibly have a use for Steam OS.

Perhaps we can just put the childish name calling to one side and get back on topic. Truce?

True enough although I'm not sure that's where Valve sees SteamOS. For it to be worth while they want people to buy SteamOS versions of games which leaves you having to have a fairly decent and expensive gaming PC under the TV, hence the whole Steambox thing. If you're going to spend £500 on something to go under the TV to play games locked in with DRM to one supplier wouldn't you just buy a console?

If you already have a windows PC and a media PC under the TV though I can see the streaming tech might be a bit of fun and fundamentally free so why not

The "If you're going to spend £500 on something to go under the TV to play games locked in with DRM to one supplier wouldn't you just buy a console?" Hits the nail on the head - the Steam Box appears to be designed for exactly that market - it's instead of a console, but not (IMO) for someone with no existing PC gaming presence in their house.

Obviously, if you have no existing gaming PC and on the reasonable assumption that games have to be developed for SteamOS natively (i.e. it's not just going to play any PC game out of the box) then sure, you're buying a console with fewer games and less developer support than XBone/PS4, but I don't see that as the target audience for the device.

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Anyone know if there's a Beta to sign up for? Wouldn't mind trying this.

Yep - there was a thread called "steam reveal" somewhere in this forum that had links to the SteamOS/SteamBox/Steam controller pages, which should have the details. I seem to recall you had to join a Steam group for a chance to take part - that might just be for the hardware beta test but I think it included SteamOS too.
 
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