Valve Packages?

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I'm new to the series of half life/counterstrike games, and was wondering what package to get, ie the one that has all the games I should play.
 
Depends how much money you're willing to spend, and what you're after out of it.

The top Valve package, the Valve complete pacakge, comes with every Valve game based on the Half-Life engine and also every Half-Life 2 engine based Valve game (Source Engine).

If you're just wanting it for single player, in the complete package, you're getting Half-Life, Opposing Force and Blueshift on the Half-Life engine side, and Half-Life 2 and Half-Life 2: Episode One on the Source side.

Multiplayer wise, it depends on what you enjoy, you'll probably find all of the older Half-Life engine games quite poor in terms of graphics etc (Counter-Stike 1.6, Counter-Strike: Condition Zero, Day of Defeat, Team Fortress Classic, Death Match Classic and Ricochet).

If you go for just the Source Premier Pack, you'll get Half-Life: Source, which is the original Half-Life converted using the Source engine. The advantage here is you don't have to buy the Half-Life 1 based games from the Valve complete pack to play Half-Life: Source, but you would be missing out on the great add on packs Opposing Force and Blueshift.

You've got the complete pack costing you around £50, and the Source Premier Pack costing you around £36. You could get some of this cheaper by getting a mix of retail copies and registering them all to one account, but it can be difficult with older Half-Life games due to them being limited stock and CD Keys being already registered a lot of the time.

If you are a patient person, I would almost suggest waiting until Half-Life 2: Episode 2 pre-order becomes available, as that will likely be made part of the main Valve complete package, with Team Fortress 2 and Portal. There'll likely be a 10% discount, however it'll be a bit more expensive due to the number of new titles being added to the bundle.
 
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What are the package options these days? They've changed since the Gold/Silver/Bronze days of HL2's pre-release haven't they?

As for which games to go for, I think it comes soley down to whether you can overlook poor graphics in a game. If you can't, you can still enjoy three very good games in HL2, CS:S and DOD:S, but if you can, you'll find that all three are surpassed by their previous incarnations, which are all excellent and ooze quality gameplay.
 
When Valve expanded Steam beyond Gold/Silver/Bronze, it made a heap of packages. As packages they're not *too* bad value wise, but some games as individual items are total ripoffs.

An example of CS:Source as a package option can be seen:
http://www.steampowered.com/v/index.php?area=game&AppId=240&
On its own, it's about £12, but for an extra £6 you can get DoD:Source and HL2: DM as well etc.
 
Personally I think the premier pack is a good option for new comers as it gives you all the HL2 content, plus HL:S which is an excellent SP game. You do miss out on the HL expansions/mods, but then I wasn't overly impressed with the SP content, and new players are probably better off starting with the more modern multiplayer mods anyway.
 
So sounds like counter the strike source and hl2 games are the ones I should go for then. The prices are in $ so am I right in assuming that It gets converted at £1 = $1.95?
 
Energize said:
So sounds like counter the strike source and hl2 games are the ones I should go for then. The prices are in $ so am I right in assuming that It gets converted at £1 = $1.95?
And added VAT, so $59.95 Source Premier Pack on Steam = ~£31 + ~£6(17.5%VAT) = ~£36
 
Just make sure you get Half Life 1 in the pack, for the billions of quality multiplayer mods.

Natural Selection > any Source game.
 
Energize said:
How many GB will the Holiday 2006 Collection be to download? I don't want to go over the limit. :p
Not hard to work it out. Convert to GBP, add 17.5%. Allow for bank charging for overseas transactions, depending on bank.
 
DaveyD said:
Not hard to work it out. Convert to GBP, add 17.5%. Allow for bank charging for overseas transactions, depending on bank.

I think he means Gigabytes.

And if he does I'd say 7GBish? (Rough guess I dont have a clue really)
 
UKTopGun said:
I think he means Gigabytes.

And if he does I'd say 7GBish? (Rough guess I dont have a clue really)
Oh god I'm talking crap tonight :o

Apologies.

It's around 6-7GB for everything in the Holiday Package. The main download is the Source engine and sounds. Then the inidivual files for each game. So Half-Life 2 is about 841Mb, Episode One 606Mb, CS:S 1.67Gb etc
 
naffa said:
Do you play that then? :cool:

Since 1.04. :)

Natural Selection 2 will be incredible, been following the progress on the Unknown Worlds blog and they released a video of the new "dynamic infestation", looks awesome already!
 
They're releasing it for Source?!?!!?? :eek: :eek:

That was one of the uberest games I've ever played, let alone mods. On Source it will be simply sublime. :eek:

Any kind of estimated release date yet?
 
naffa said:
They're releasing it for Source?!?!!?? :eek: :eek:

That was one of the uberest games I've ever played, let alone mods. On Source it will be simply sublime. :eek:

Any kind of estimated release date yet?

Flayra said:
We know Half-life inside and out. Source was made to be largely backwards-compatible to encourage HL1 mods to move to Source. So we can be productive with it very quickly.

:D

The interview is here; http://www.firingsquad.com/news/newsarticle.asp?searchid=13285

And the video of 'dynamic infestation' here;
http://www.unknownworlds.com/blog/2006/12/dynamic_infestation.html
 
Just bought it and when trying to download it I get "the servers are currently too busy to handle your request", looks like the horrors I've heard of using steam are already starting to manifest themselves, what crap servers. :rolleyes:
 
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