Vehicle driven into people in Stockholm-Please refrain from speculative and antagonistic posts

Avenged7Fold · 7 Apr 2017 at 15:26

I dont think you can blame myspace Tom for this one Chris, he is friends with everyone!

hornetstinger · 7 Apr 2017 at 15:27

Chris Wilson said:
The Islamic State made crystal clear they were waging a holy war upon the west. Hard as such vows are to accept in 2017 it is more than apparent that it's no idle threat, so talk of "why Sweden?", or why anywhere in the west is being ridiculously head in the sand. They are doing precisely what they said they were going to do. I am afraid a lot of westerners are so used to idle threats and bull from social media aided perhaps a long period with no coherent enemy taking hostile actions against them they seem hard pressed to believe their own eyes. We are inundated with lies from politicians, advertising and social media, and I believe many are still unable to grasp these people mean what they say, have no fear of dying for their cause, and are a real and present danger throughout western countries. To say Swedes offered the hand of friendship, why do this to them is banal, naive and frankly worrying.

They think that because they are nice (themselves) that others will be nice if you are nice to them.

Nope. It's been going on for 1400 years, only reason before not a problem because other side of the world. With 100,000 terrorist supporters every year in every single country, the western world will be a pile of rubble like the ME unless something is done.

danielanthony · 7 Apr 2017 at 15:27

Swedish Prime Minister now says it's a terrorist attack and not an accident.

So can the thread title be changed to "Terrorist Attack in Sweden" as this would be factually correct?

You can leave the Islamic bit out until later if you like.

Arazi · 7 Apr 2017 at 15:28

Paul_cz said:
I am getting more and more convinced there is a religious/civil war in western european future.

You are the first i have heard say that, i have thought the same for a while, it is why we are ******* the EU off

Uther · 7 Apr 2017 at 15:28

hornetstinger said:
That is irrelevent. They don't care and with one hand they'll accept your charity, and with the other have a knife to slit your throat.

+1

Mynight · 7 Apr 2017 at 15:31

Chris Wilson said:
The Islamic State made crystal clear they were waging a holy war upon the west. Hard as such vows are to accept in 2017 it is more than apparent that it's no idle threat, so talk of "why Sweden?", or why anywhere in the west is being ridiculously head in the sand. They are doing precisely what they said they were going to do. I am afraid a lot of westerners are so used to idle threats and bull from social media aided perhaps a long period with no coherent enemy taking hostile actions against them they seem hard pressed to believe their own eyes. We are inundated with lies from politicians, advertising and social media, and I believe many are still unable to grasp these people mean what they say, have no fear of dying for their cause, and are a real and present danger throughout western countries. To say Swedes offered the hand of friendship, why do this to them is banal, naive and frankly worrying.

I may well be all of those things however considering so few attacks have taken place and the size of Isis/extremists in general and relative ease of driving a car I am not overly concerned about this "holy war". Currently I'm much more likely to get killed in the rush hour war of 7-8am than via Isis. Selfish as that may be to worry about Isis is a waste of my time.

drs101 · 7 Apr 2017 at 15:32

Paul_cz said:
I think lot more people already are "radicalized" (actually, just following Quran as written and as Imams prescribe) than you think. There was a book released recently "Inside Islam" about a journalist going in some dozen+ mosques in Germany to find out what is being preached - you can guess the result.

Secularism + Islam do not mix well. Even Turkey is going full blown islamist full steam ahead.

well i hope not, for a true civil war there would have to be a lo of people wanting to fight and I just dont see that and that isn't my experience of Muslims and non Muslims in London anyway.

jsmoke · 7 Apr 2017 at 15:34

Not much of a terror aspect about it anymore, more a self pity aspect. Self-pitiest attack.

batsy · 7 Apr 2017 at 15:35

Mynight said:
I may well be all of those things however considering so few attacks have taken place and the size of Isis/extremists in general and relative ease of driving a car I am not overly concerned about this "holy war". Currently I'm much more likely to get killed in the rush hour war of 7-8am than via Isis. Selfish as that may be to worry about Isis is a waste of my time.

I'm going with a breakaway Hare Krishna group.

DrToffnar · 7 Apr 2017 at 15:35

drs101 said:
well i hope not, for a true civil war there would have to be a lo of people wanting to fight and I just dont see that and that isn't my experience of Muslims and non Muslims in London anyway.

Careful! That post was almost sensible and reasoned!

Arazi · 7 Apr 2017 at 15:35

Dis86 said:
Well considering we had one islamic supporter on this forum recently refer to another member as a dog and what Ibelieve translated as 'sub-human' then I think that's a clear indicator.

I missed that, who was it?

Vonhelmet · 7 Apr 2017 at 15:36

jsmoke said:
Not much of a terror aspect about it anymore, more a self pity aspect. Self-pitiest attack.

It is really crap as far as terrorism goes. Where are the demands?

edscdk · 7 Apr 2017 at 15:39

Vonhelmet said:
It is really crap as far as terrorism goes. Where are the demands?

I always find it odd there are never any demands for anything, just some group claiming responsibility.....

DrToffnar · 7 Apr 2017 at 15:41

edscdk said:
I always find it odd there are never any demands for anything, just some group claiming responsibility.....

Do we really expect anything AT ALL though? These people are nothing more than delusional psychopaths.

Ayahuasca · 7 Apr 2017 at 15:41

It won't be long before a lorry is driven down a much busier street and the death toll ends up 10 or 15 times higher than this. It's such a difficult attack to prevent and it's all over before anything can be done.

G-MAN2004 · 7 Apr 2017 at 15:42

edscdk said:
I always find it odd there are never any demands for anything, just some group claiming responsibility.....

They get what they want in the afterlife.

Arazi · 7 Apr 2017 at 15:43

DrToffnar said:
To bad.

Really, is that all you have got, so you agree with not being allowed to speculate?

Zatoichi.uK · 7 Apr 2017 at 15:43

Not again. RIP to the dead.

Yep we know what they want, because they tell us.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_ToLv3rt1M

Vonhelmet · 7 Apr 2017 at 15:46

DrToffnar said:
Do we really expect anything AT ALL though? These people are nothing more than delusional psychopaths.

G-MAN2004 said:
They get what they want in the afterlife.

If there's no coherent demands then is it even terrorism? Isn't it... something else?

deuse · 7 Apr 2017 at 15:47

One arrest so far.