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Hi all just got some velociraptors 300gb sata 2 plus one another one for op system.
Planned to raid 0 them for my games etc.But one arrived DOA.
My question is how much difference will there be between one on it's own and pair in raid0?

But now RMA'ing dead one to WD.So could be back to 2 again anyway.
 
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I looked long and hard at raid before bagging myself an ssd, and for gaming or general usage, raid is pointless. Comes down to access times. Raiding in an ideal situation means if you want a huge file, you get twice the speed, but once you start searching for data, which nearly everthing does, the benefit disappears- completley.

You are better paying twice as much for a single drive. Once both drives have spun up, and you are taking a continuous stream of data from them, raid is brilliant, real world this very rarely happens.

Case in point; 2x 300gb raptors; £366
Or
Intel X25-M (blows a raptor out the water)
Samsung 1tb f3 (real world, you would need a keen eye to notice this from a raptor- or raided raptors)- £236

People seem to have an issue with limited storage on an ssd, but if you think realistically, how many gb of info do you spend 80% of your time using?

I have a pretty big steam folder, but just store it all on the samsung. OS and core programmes are on a 30gb partition on the ssd. The rest of the ssd I use symlinks to copy games out of the steam folder, and onto the ssd. Investing a tad more as you cannot be short of a bob or two to spend that on storage, £50 more to raid the intel ssd- zip acess time and will cover 145 gig...then raid starts working...

Most gamers will only REALLY play three or so games, so the ssd deals with 90% of my gaming.

Raiding ssd's is a goer, because access times are non existent, but with platter hds you are just too limited by seek times.

As is if stuck with a raptor, I would just leave it, no gamer needs raid unless he got it before the advent of ssd.
 
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I agree with the poster above. The Velociraptors are a good balance between price and performance. But if you're looking to RAID a pair, you may as well just get an SSD unless you really need the space.

There is NO WAY i'd give up my X25-M, it's one of the best upgrades i've done in years.
 
Yes great fantastic? But i all ready have the drives i'm not buying any so you have missed the point of my question! Which was what would be the difference between a single drive and a pair in raid 0?
 
Sorry if I went off point a bit.

Raid 0-
Benchmark scores will double in some areas- access times might actually get a bit worse.
Negligible improvement on startup, possible loss as raid is initialised.
Large files transfer faster.
Normal programme usage benefits are negligible.
Game load times- marginal difference.
Game performance (fps) no difference.
Overall impact on gaming- some, and that is being kind, when you take into account that 'some' costs £180 in this case.
Obvious failure risk- one goes all data lost.
Noticably bigger epeen.

Not much benefit, far from worth the cost, esp. when it comes to raptors@180 quid. Only real world difference you will see is when you start shifting gigabyte files about. Could imagine that using one for os and one for programmes and games would be better, think I already made my point that if you can get shot of the dead one, and use cash to bag an ssd that is your best option.

Having said this, if you do end up with 2 and decide to keep them and raid, I would look at raid 1. When gaming level load times will be the main area you will see benefit in. Raid 1 allows the benefits of raid 0 in terms of reads, writes suffer slightly, but you will be reading far more than writing, also you will not lose all your data if something bad happens to a drive.
 
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Hi yes ive sent bad one back to WD rma'd it so should get another one back soon? it was giving recyclic error.So my reasoning was wither to bother with raiding them or just using one for op's and another for game etc.if i can some cash i would get an ssd but atmo it's not an option? the velicraptors were only £100 each so can live with them for time being.
and just changing from the older ones.Had the AFD1500 as op's one and now using a 1600 one bit newer just to try out to see if it stopped problem i was getting with lag/freezing in game on cod4 etc plus in cod5 everytime it loaded between maps in single play it went jittery/froze when cpu loaded up it just wacked it over to end on monitor on G19 K'board till load went down then it played video ok! Used to be ok when i first got game then reinstalled and started getting more probs like this changed mobo to see if 680i was prob being older board? but no.
Just got my W7 to install now.
 
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