Yeah all that happens is a house with a second or third car ends up parking in these spots and visitors can never park there. Got one in front of row of houses I am on and the 2nd house in always parks their second car there. Tbh it makes little difference and wouldn't bother me in the slightest. If I was purchasing Plot 19 I would just plant along boarder a low level hedge line and/or a low level fence just to split the front garden clearly. If you go fence then you don't generally have to go full height with a hedge but could break it up with some nice ornamental trees and lower shrubery. All depends what you want.
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I see 8 visitor parking spaces in your picture. Quite a few houses will likely have more than 2 cars. Some couples have 3 cars just between them without kids as they will have 2 cars and a van. Now think of all the visitors and people that come round said housing estate. Now think of all the houses that have kids that drive as well. Now think of the selfish people that will park in the visitor spots permanently to leave their driveway free for when they or their guests want to come round and park on the drive.
Basically as already pointed out, those spaces will be permanently filled/used/hogged/abused because that's what people do on estates. There is NEVER enough parking on any new build estates, even with houses with double drives and garages. You might get unlucky and get someone who likes to permanently leave their long wheel based, dirty, great big white van there, sit in it whilst chatting on the bluetooth with the speakers turned right up resonating around the estate.
Saying the above, it's not like they are right outside your window. You could grow a hedge to block the view. Also, you could use the spaces yourself so it might come in handy if you ever have a household with 3+ cars. Or if you want to be that guy, you could park your cars in them permanently. This is where it is important to check the rules on their usage.
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The newish build estate my mum and dad moved too has a mix of 1 bed flats, upto 6 bed houses. I believe the flats have 1 parking space (which imo is stupid as I think the minium should be 2) so now all the lazy people park opposite a t junction (which I actually thought was illegal).I see 8 visitor parking spaces in your picture. Quite a few houses will likely have more than 2 cars. Some couples have 3 cars just between them without kids as they will have 2 cars and a van. Now think of all the visitors and people that come round said housing estate. Now think of all the houses that have kids that drive as well. Now think of the selfish people that will park in the visitor spots permanently to leave their driveway free for when they or their guests want to come round and park on the drive.
Basically as already pointed out, those spaces will be permanently filled/used/hogged/abused because that's what people do on estates. There is NEVER enough parking on any new build estates, even with houses with double drives and garages. You might get unlucky and get someone who likes to permanently leave their long wheel based, dirty, great big white van there, sit in it whilst chatting on the bluetooth with the speakers turned right up resonating around the estate.
Saying the above, it's not like they are right outside your window. You could grow a hedge to block the view. Also, you could use the spaces yourself so it might come in handy if you ever have a household with 3+ cars. Or if you want to be that guy, you could park your cars in them permanently. This is where it is important to check the rules on their usage.
It's all about the profit. Developers want to squeeze as many houses in as possible. Majority of new build houses only have 1 car parking space allocated on average. Houses should be built with drive ways like in America set back from the road where you can get 4 or 5 cars on per house. Then we would have actual nicer looking estates/housing areas where the roads were clear and more functional.
The estate I used to live on was built in the 70s ish, and the houses are typically terraced with grass court yard areas out the front of them. These court yards were largely pointless because any time the kids went and played on them, members of the residents association would come out and tell them to stop eroding the grass and that it wasn't for games and stuff. Jobs worth frankly. Anyway, there were parking bays throughout the estate but none of them officially allocated to any one house. There are probably about 0.5 spaces per house. Garages are in blocks and you couldn't park in them because it would block access to said block and other garages. Everyone needed to use their garages to store stuff, plus they just aren't big enough to get modern day wider cars in to easily anyway.
Cars to this day there, literally litter the streets in any possible position. They have issues with the bin collections as the lorries can't get down the streets and often have to give up. They have had it where fire service has had to physically move cars for ambulances to get through. The estate is also built near some businesses and a train station with links to London, therefore commuters also abuse it. They asked residents if they wanted permits putting in place, and the feedback was negative so it has never gone ahead. Some of the vans that get parked up, are huge full height jobbies as well, and this is meant to be banned but still happens.
New build areas should be looking to prevent such parking issues where possible. The estate in OP looks nice and at least they have double drive ways, but I guarantee there will be times where guests come to park and there are no spaces.
The estate I used to live on was built in the 70s ish, and the houses are typically terraced with grass court yard areas out the front of them. These court yards were largely pointless because any time the kids went and played on them, members of the residents association would come out and tell them to stop eroding the grass and that it wasn't for games and stuff. Jobs worth frankly. Anyway, there were parking bays throughout the estate but none of them officially allocated to any one house. There are probably about 0.5 spaces per house. Garages are in blocks and you couldn't park in them because it would block access to said block and other garages. Everyone needed to use their garages to store stuff, plus they just aren't big enough to get modern day wider cars in to easily anyway.
Cars to this day there, literally litter the streets in any possible position. They have issues with the bin collections as the lorries can't get down the streets and often have to give up. They have had it where fire service has had to physically move cars for ambulances to get through. The estate is also built near some businesses and a train station with links to London, therefore commuters also abuse it. They asked residents if they wanted permits putting in place, and the feedback was negative so it has never gone ahead. Some of the vans that get parked up, are huge full height jobbies as well, and this is meant to be banned but still happens.
New build areas should be looking to prevent such parking issues where possible. The estate in OP looks nice and at least they have double drive ways, but I guarantee there will be times where guests come to park and there are no spaces.
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How close is the parking bay to the corner of your house ?
Where does your front garden end to the side relative to plot 15 ?
Where does your front garden end to the side relative to plot 15 ?
The front garden is just a low hedge straight from the front right corner of the house to the pavement. I believe the small area of grass to the right of the house with the spaces directly in front is just cut and managed as part of the development but I would find this out if we decide to reserve.
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So does that mean anyone can basically toutch the side of your house from the mangered area ?
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We have loads of VP where i live, its used by teh locals and some people compain but what they gonna do?
One advantage of VP is that people cannot park in the road there, so you at least gain the advantage that the road is generally clearer where VP is situated
One advantage of VP is that people cannot park in the road there, so you at least gain the advantage that the road is generally clearer where VP is situated
Cannot as in should not?
You know what happens with that. Some git in a massive van will leave it mounted up on the curb/grass verge somewhere not in a VP. If it is enforced or done in a way where they built it with nice large curbs or plantations which prevent it then cool.
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Cannot as in should not?
But you get that anyway but where there is VP parking they cannot do that
Where we live the areas most easily navigated are where there are VP parking and people (unless they were willing to double park) cannot park there
No not quite that close, if you take another look at the plan you can see after the bay its about the length of the drive to the closest point of the house.
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I actually preferred the layout, especially the kitchen in the Masterton, the one we almost purchased at callerton was the Charlton.
2 of the largest houses they do on both devs I believe, with them both typically having massive gardens as well, the two at the top right of the highfields one do have an interesting strip of land behind them as well. I was going to contact the council and all sorts, but ultimately their delays meant the highfields one just wasn't for us. sort of reassuring that we did the right thing when we saw the prices, it is a nice area there's no doubt about that but the prices they're asking are questionable to say the least.
We look a little further afield heddon, Ponteland, throckley... even got hoodwinked into looking at "lower callerton"
like ***** is that callerton it's bloody walbottle!
our move was really about the schools and future travel to/from, where we are now puts the bairns in the catchment of some pretty decent schools. the added benefit is they're really within a short walk of all schools until college, makes travel a bit easier for me haha.
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In all fairness, iirc Storey are putting 48 houses on this area
All of them have decent sized gardens and drives with a decent amount of space between the houses
Give this and to any other developer and I agree they'd have tried to shoehorn in far more properties
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No.
Just keep in mind that someone who lives there will use them constantly. We have visitors bays around our estate and some ***** has used one to extend his driveway and it's now unusable, another guy even though he has a double drive and 1 car parks in the visitor bay outside his house leaving his drive empty.
The problem with a lot of these though is getting someone to do something about it.
Whilst I don't disagree with the idea, the problem if they're forced to go down that route would probably add another 25% to the value of the house because of the loss of land required for the extra driveways as opposed to building a few extra houses.
We have all the covenants but they're difficult to enforce.
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It's one of the few things America do better than us imo. Generally they have lots of drive space (obviously land is less of an issue), but they often have those housing associations which would stop people from abusing things (although they can be over the top in regards to tidiness from what I've read).