Vista academic version

bayo000 · 1 Feb 2008 at 12:13

Hi,

thinking of getting a vista and would like to know if this academic version is a 64bit or 32bit?
read somewhere that this retail ones are 32bit and for 64bit i'd have to contact microsoft and they would sent me 64bit for extra charge. :confused:

Also when/if i get it i want to install it on separate HDD than my xp. Is it possible and will "dual boot" that vista got work fine?

My system is
E2180 @ 3000, Asus P5KC, 2 gig OCZ platinum rev 2 (got another 2 gig 5300 in the box so maybe i'd mix it to use 4gig), 8800gt 512MB etc...

Thanks a lot.

Burnsy2023 · 1 Feb 2008 at 12:23

32 bit and then you send away for the 64 bit media.

As far as I'm aware, academic retail versions are upgrade only (correct me if I'm wrong) so unless you have 2 XP licences you couldn't dual boot.

Burnsy

bayo000 · 1 Feb 2008 at 13:08

Yeah it's upgrade. It says i could use it for clean install, even if not i thought i could install my xp again then upgrade it. Don't realy see why i should need 2 xp licences. Paid for my XP, paid for Vista so why shouldn't i be aloved to have xp and vista installed? :S

For my other question can xp and vista be installed on 2 disks or it has to be one and each of the system on its own partition?

Cheers.

Burnsy2023 · 1 Feb 2008 at 13:12

bayo000 said:
Yeah it's upgrade. It says i could use it for clean install, even if not i thought i could install my xp again then upgrade it. Don't realy see why i should need 2 xp licences. Paid for my XP, paid for Vista so why shouldn't i be aloved to have xp and vista installed? :S

The upgrade requires a qualifying product to be valid. Therefore your XP licence is still in use to be able to use the Vista licence. If you then want another XP install (to dual boot) you then require another licence.

bayo000 said:
For my other question can xp and vista be installed on 2 disks or it has to be one and each of the system on its own partition?

It can be installed on separete paritions or HDDs. What ever you want really

Burnsy

Rebelius · 1 Feb 2008 at 13:20

you get a huge discount off vista because you paid for an XP license before it, and the Vista upgrade license means you can't use the XP one anymore (unless you get rid of vista)

If you don't like it, either buy another copy of XP or become a software pirate, but if you're going to do that, why bother paying for vista at all.

Also, if you only have OEM XP, you'll need to buy a new copy of vista if you upgrade your motherboard.

bayo000 · 1 Feb 2008 at 13:33

Thanks, bit disapointed with the fact that i'd need another xp licence, still it would prolly be cheaper than getting a retail vista. :confused:

Burnsy2023 said:
32 bit and then you send away for the 64 bit media.

So lets say i pick up 32bit retail version how much is this "upgrade" to 64?

About the OEM versions am i right thinking that i can reinstal them as long as its same mobo? Or once installed thats it? My xp back up image doesnt seem to need reactivating when restored so could this be "way round it"?

i've just built my system and hopefully won't have to upgrade my mobo for bout 2 years so OEM could work for me...

Cheers.

JaffaJedi · 1 Feb 2008 at 13:42

I think I paid about £7 for the 64bit version direct from MS

MarcLister · 1 Feb 2008 at 14:48

How would I buy Vista academic? Is it from a shop/education based retailer? Or is it from MSDNAA?

topshot · 1 Feb 2008 at 15:23

Rebelius said:
Also, if you only have OEM XP, you'll need to buy a new copy of vista if you upgrade your motherboard.

my mate just rang them up, explianed that his m'board died and had been replaced and they re-activated it

stoofa · 1 Feb 2008 at 15:31

topshot said:
my mate just rang them up, explianed that his m'board died and had been replaced and they re-activated it

Yes - a warranty swap of a motherboard is permitted.
This is the ONLY time a motherboard swap is allowed under the OEM license.

A general upgrade or your motherboard fails outside of warranty (so you have to buy a new one) and the license is no longer valid.

bayo000 · 1 Feb 2008 at 15:47

You can get the academic version for bout £70 all incl. Just look for it.

Hmm i think i'll try to find the cheapest retail version i can.

Thanks a lot.

MarcLister · 1 Feb 2008 at 15:49

No need to mention the competitors bayo000.

bayo000 · 1 Feb 2008 at 15:56

Sorry bout that, but on other hand don't think i've seen academic version on OCuk so its not realy mentioning competition if its not catered for here. =D

MarcLister · 1 Feb 2008 at 15:57

True. But still dodgy ground. Could you edit out both the names you mentioned?

Burnsy2023 · 1 Feb 2008 at 16:00

If you want to dual boot, I think OEM may be a better licencing route.

And as Listy says, edit that competitor

Burnsy

bayo000 · 1 Feb 2008 at 16:11

Editing done.

Thanks for all the help.

Servo · 1 Feb 2008 at 17:00

I can't see why you can't have a duel booting system using your xp license and vista. You can't really run them at the same time, so you are not breaking any rules.

I have the academic version, and it doesn't even ask for xp disk when installing.

Burnsy2023 · 1 Feb 2008 at 17:14

Servo said:
I You can't really run them at the same time, so you are not breaking any rules.

Yes you are. It's not concurrent usage that counts, its installations.

Burnsy

Uriel · 1 Feb 2008 at 17:26

FYI, i bought the educational licence. It took Microsoft about 3 weeks to send me the 64 bit disc.

Servo · 1 Feb 2008 at 17:33

Burnsy2023 said:
Yes you are. It's not concurrent usage that counts, its installations.

Burnsy

You maybe right matey, but I bet there's a lot of users running duel boot systems in this way. I'm sure most people will move over to vista in the future, but I can't see Microsoft being bothered about this as along as you have purchased the product.