Vodafone Moot National FTTP Network

AlecR said:
You could be on gigabit broadband right now if the money hadn't gone to BT.
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My concern there would be that some small provider with lofty ambitions gets the contract and then you end up with a situation like the hopelessly-oversubscribed HyperOptic or overpriced and capped Kingston Communications.
 
MissChief said:
FWIW I also disagreed with the sell off of BT. In no way should a national network, paid for by public money over fifty years, have been allowed to fall into private hands. I feel the same way about Royal Mail. At the very most BT and RM should be converted into 'not for profit' corporations, or ideally kept in government ownership but again, run on a not for profit basis. The same goes for any other 'national' utility. Water and electricity companies are now owned by foreign companies. How can they best serve their UK customers when the 'overlords' don't even live here to see, first hand, how decisions made affect their customers.
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Unfortunately public sector organisations often suffer from vested interests and political interference which tends to corrupt them. Companies have their own problems but the fear of the market helps keep them honest to some degree.
 
Does anyone know when G.Fast will roll out mainstream in UK? By mainstream I mean most of the people on existing FTTC being offered it.
 
philip2009 said:
G.fast will be a "decade long deployment, which will start around 2016/17", so when that will cover most people on FTTC is anybody's guess.
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I was only thinking about this the other day.

ADSL came out year 2000.
FTTC came out 2008.

To keep the momentum going we really need G.fast mainstream by 2018 at the latest, this of course probably won't happen.
 
I doubt expense is a problem for VG - they were £11 billion cash positive when they bought C&W for £1.098 billion, a fraction of what the company was worth. They bought C&W solely for their network, with a view to becoming a multi-service provider (and reducing their reliance on BT for tails etc). The network was in need of massive upgrades and expansion, and last I'd heard they were doing just that to facilitate their goals. I expect this to happen, and using VM's final mile is an interesting spin.

VF need to do something, their mobile share is under threat and the margins are getting ever tighter. For them to survive in the UK they need to expand their offerings, as their current model isn't sustainable.
 
You can't really compare ADSL and fibre because ADSL didn't require anything new to be constructed in the "last mile"; all the work happened in the exchange and there are what, 6000 exchanges? It was a lot less work.

When does FTTC stop and G.Fast begin. That's what I want to know.
 
TheVoice said:
My concern there would be that some small provider with lofty ambitions gets the contract and then you end up with a situation like the hopelessly-oversubscribed HyperOptic or overpriced and capped Kingston Communications.
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Or Gigaclear. They've been collecting a few contracts to deploy to rural communities. I have no trouble reaching my 1Gbps connection speed at any time of the day. The problem is mostly the server on the other end or the networks in between.

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I've picked Haarlem because it's one of the few servers that can actually push the line.
 
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