For the parts of the network they control. So you'd have to find a manged PBX provider using the same ISP....as the previous post said
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For the parts of the network they control. So you'd have to find a manged PBX provider using the same ISP....as the previous post said
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For their networks, not the Internet as a whole. I'm fully aware of how ISPs work
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Well if we are being pedantic you actually said that you wouldn't get QoS on an Internet connection. I never said anything about the whole Internet
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Well if we are being pedantic you actually said that you wouldn't get QoS on an Internet connection. I never said anything about the whole Internet
Being more pedantic, any connection you get QoS on will be a private circuit, not to the Internet
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Being more pedantic, any connection you get QoS on will be a private circuit, not to the Internet
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LMAO these companies are called INTERNET service providers, they provide connections to the INTERNET. They offer QoS on ADSL connections to the INTERNET to consumers. They may also offer private circuits, but that was not what the original post was about.
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On the whole, they don't. For QoS to be of any use it needs to be end-to-end. Having QoS to the edge is nice but ultimately useless if the intervening hops are over utilised and your traffic isn't prioritised.
They might carry out traffic management on P2P traffic, but that isn't the QoS being discussed here.
The fact they're called internet service providers is irrelevant. If the connection is between two discrete networks it is internet. The Internet is just a name for all those connections - like The Cloud is used for describing anything outside your network.
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ISP is the term used for a provider, this is not necessarily an internet connection but is a carrier connection.
QoS over ADSL to the Internet? yeah... source?
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No they dont
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Being more pedantic, any connection you get QoS on will be a private circuit, not to the Internet
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Though a private circuit is essentially what you have prior to it hitting the ISP core network.
There are ISPs that peer directly with VoIP providers and will provide end to end QoS to that provider.
I can name Exponential-e for one that does exactly that. They will provide layer 2 connectivity and end to end QoS to their VoIP partner.
It limits your choice of VoIP provider, but it is nevertheless available.
Disclaimer: I'd like to make it clear that this post in no way implies i am backing up SimonR, these services use ethernet leased lines or EFM circuits. ADSL does not work for hosted VoIP because while DSCP markings are preserved for later use within the provider network if they choose, the layer 2 protocol on the ADSL access circuit has no (adequate)QoS mechanism, you need ethernet access lines to maintain full end to end QoS.
Some providers offer dedicated SDSL for hosted VoIP, and it often works fine. But this isn't the same as end to end QoS and call quality is not guaranteed.