VW POLO or Ford Fiesta Ghia?

No, 05 plate is Mk2 as well.

Mk2 Focus is 2005 on - the first ones are on 54 plates. The Mk1 is 1998-2005, and the last ones are on 05 plates.
 
Ahh kk my bad :p

Now I see the difference longer pointier lights and stuffs

EDIT: Okay now truthfully I do like the MK2 a lot especially in black

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/933958.htm

Just trying to find one from closer to where I live. Is it just pistonheads and autotrader that people use to find cars?

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Surely if I went for a good MK2 focus in my price range they have already done a hell of a lot of depreciating business as new ones are way more?
 
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Jez said:
I cannot sell fords unless i practically give them away. VW polo's by contrast are in incredible demand and absolutely fly away as soon as advertised.
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That speaks far more of the mentality of the average car buyer than of the relative merits of the VW over the Ford.
 
I wouldn't bother spending that much on a first car.

You need a 53/04 reg 1.6 mk1.5 Focus Zetec with about 50k on the clock and service history. Don't worry about money pits and the like, all cars can make big bills, it's one of those things but it's not likely to happen so stop worrying!

As for the size, the Focus weighs about 100kg more than the Fiesta or something silly like that. My dad has had his focus for 5/6 years and all thats needed replacing is service items like filters, brakes and tires.

A mk2 can cost you a bit in depreciation, let someone else take the hit on depreciation.
 
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Skoda Fabia vRS. It's quick and cheap to insure. Plus it'll do 50mpg all day long and you'll have no trouble selling it if you want to.

Same car as the Polo but maybe a little less pretty, better built, properly powerful engine, excellent level of standard equipment for a cheap car and for £6K you'll get a 55 plate with about 36,000 miles on it.

Just avoid anything that's been chipped/remapped, lowered or otherwise modded or you'll get hammered by your insurer.
 
Yeah still here looking at autotrader :D

WJA96 said:
Skoda Fabia vRS. It's quick and cheap to insure. Plus it'll do 50mpg all day long and you'll have no trouble selling it if you want to.

Same car as the Polo but maybe a little less pretty, better built, properly powerful engine, excellent level of standard equipment for a cheap car and for £6K you'll get a 55 plate with about 36,000 miles on it.
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Skoda? I thought they were ... rubbish :confused::p Something like below or newer? edit my bad the one you mention has "vRS" in it

http://search.autotrader.co.uk/es-u...hicleYearOfManufacture=2005&vehicleRegLetter=

I found some now but all 100's of miles away! :( The vRS I am seeing are all like 1.9L engine lol cheap to run and insure how can that be :0 ! ps Tesco won't even let me have a fiesta ST without a years licence.

Janesy B said:
I'd expect that Fabia to be a total pain in the arse to insure for someone who's just passed their test, no ncb and 21.
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I can be a named driver on my gf's policy 3yrsNCB for a while if that helps.. or did you assume something like that anyway :)
 
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deadkomodo said:
Skoda? I thought they were ... rubbish :confused::p
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Once upon a time, but not these days.

deadkomodo said:
I found some now but all 100's of miles away! :( The vRS I am seeing are all like 1.9L engine lol cheap to run and insure how can that be :0 ! ps Tesco won't even let me have a fiesta ST without a years licence.
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It's a diesel and it's not especially quick in standard form. It's only group 9 insurance.
 
http://search.autotrader.co.uk/es-u...cleYearOfManufacture=2005&vehicleRegLetter=55

100HP ? How come all the fabias of same age/name have differing HP or just don't list it at all?

Is 100HP on a 1.4 good? I remember the polo's 70 something being bad but no one explained what was good.

Like how much HP would the 1.6 MK2 focus zetecs have? Is it comparable?

When looking tomor at the fabias and focus in the garages tomor should I be looking at diesal or petrol cars?

Edit: Also is it just me or do the fabias look they are really old skol?
 
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Dogbreath said:
Once upon a time, but not these days.
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If DeadKomodo did his homework he would know that the Fabia is the same car as the VW Polo, Seat Ibiza and Audi A2 with a different bodyshell. Same engine, gearbox, 9N Chassis, all mechanical parts interchangeable etc.

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It's a diesel and it's not especially quick in standard form. It's only group 9 insurance.
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I think you have to define what especially quick means. Compared to the 74 or 100bhp VAG petrol cars, the 130bhp 1.9PD TDI is very quick, and it feels even quicker because of all the torque.

And because it's a diesel, and not highly desired by chavs, it's not loaded by insurance companies.
 
A bit of light reading if you're interested;

http://www.fabia-vrs.com/press-reports/

The best cars are from dealers and on the Briskoda.net enthusiast site.

The Parkers guide report is especially illuminating, and the opportunity to get a 50% power increase through a £350 remap is one of the reasons I bought one.

The reason the various cars have different power outputs for the same engine size is simple - for marketing reasons Volkswagen Audi Group (VAG) offer new and old engines in their model range at the same time.

Want a cheap as chips gutless engine? Buy the 1.2l 8V petrol
Want a rough as nails but cheap and economical diesel? Buy the 100bhp 1.9l
Want a modern diesel that pretends to be petrol? That would be the 100bhp 1.4TDI

If you look closely, you'll find the same engines in the Polo, Seat Ibiza and Audi A2 (all 9N platform) as well as many other VAG cars including the Golf, Audi A3 etc.

You definitely want a diesel though. The petrols are gutless and have poor fuel economy in comparison.

If you can, drive a Fabia vRS, you'll find the money for the insurance somehow ;)
 
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As much as I love Polo's, I'd probably say get the fiesta as anything below the 100bhp 1.4 16v in a Polo is quite painful. You could maybe check the prices of them...but they are insurance group 10 for some stupid reason (well the 6N's were, presuming the 9N's are too)
 
WJA96 said:
The reason the various cars have different power outputs for the same engine size is simple - for marketing reasons Volkswagen Audi Group (VAG) offer new and old engines in their model range at the same time.

Want a cheap as chips gutless engine? Buy the 1.2l 8V petrol
Want a rough as nails but cheap and economical diesel? Buy the 100bhp 1.9l
Want a modern diesel that pretends to be petrol? That would be the 100bhp 1.4TDI

If you look closely, you'll find the same engines in the Polo, Seat Ibiza and Audi A2 (all 9N platform) as well as many other VAG cars including the Golf, Audi A3 etc.

You definitely want a diesel though. The petrols are gutless and have poor fuel economy in comparison.

If you can, drive a Fabia vRS, you'll find the money for the insurance somehow ;)
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Thats just it tho unless I want to go wildly over budget or drive 100's of miles for a private car the 1.9vrs is not going to happen :(

So that brings me back to the 1.4. Now you say diesal is the one I want but they are the ones that are 80bhp or lower... it is only ever the petrol fabias in 1.4 that list 100bhp.
 
You dont want a diesel engine in a small car, they are noisy rattly and agricultural around town. You want a nice quiet petrol engine.
 
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I think you have to define what especially quick means. Compared to the 74 or 100bhp VAG petrol cars, the 130bhp 1.9PD TDI is very quick, and it feels even quicker because of all the torque.
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My personal feeling is that unless it will show something mundane like a 2.0 Mondeo a clean pair of heels, then it can't really be described as quick.

For a car which sits at the top of the Fabia performance chart, I can't help thinking it's a bit dull. A friend bought a brand new one for his wife, and it suffered from the typical "feels fast but isn't really" effect of most TD's. It had 18" alloys on it as well, and it was horribly crashy.
 
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