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Wait for Kaby Lake?

Caracus2k said:
Cannonlake will be the first set of consumer cpu's with a 6+ core top end cpu.
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This is just speculation though - Intel haven't confirmed or denied mainstream moving away from quad-core. Bear in mind the mainstream chips are just "full fat" mobile i7s anyway; there's been absolutely zilch in terms of rumours of mobile moving beyond quad-core. (Aside that is from the old Clevo machines which had a 6-core Ivy Bridge-E CPU).

More speculation for you - Cannonlake is meant to be a die-shrink of Kaby Lake, meaning the same socket type. The socket is set up for quad-core and thus Cannonlake itself is likely to be quad-core.

IMO the best chance of anything greater than 4 cores mainstream is with whatever comes after Cannonlake (Ice Lake according to Wiki). The other thing that could give a clue will be when 6-core Enthusiast chips are phased out...
 
Groog said:
So I've been out of the loop for a while. By the end of the year I'm looking to build a new high end gaming PC, as future proofed as I can make it.

I had figured I would build it around a Sky Lake CPU, but a little research tells me that Kaby Lake might be released in Q3.

Do you guys think it is worth waiting for it? Or would you suggest something else?
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I upgraded from a [email protected] to a [email protected] and the difference was night and day. Massive.
 
Retron said:
This is just speculation though - Intel haven't confirmed or denied mainstream moving away from quad-core. Bear in mind the mainstream chips are just "full fat" mobile i7s anyway; there's been absolutely zilch in terms of rumours of mobile moving beyond quad-core. (Aside that is from the old Clevo machines which had a 6-core Ivy Bridge-E CPU).

More speculation for you - Cannonlake is meant to be a die-shrink of Kaby Lake, meaning the same socket type. The socket is set up for quad-core and thus Cannonlake itself is likely to be quad-core.

IMO the best chance of anything greater than 4 cores mainstream is with whatever comes after Cannonlake (Ice Lake according to Wiki). The other thing that could give a clue will be when 6-core Enthusiast chips are phased out...
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Same socket as Skylake but different chipset.. you will need a '200' series chipset to run Cannonlake.

Its very likely that Cannonlake will be 6+cores Intel literally has nowhere left to go with current silicon manufacturing on the 4c8t model. MHz increases have stalled for a number of years and there's only so much IPC improvement they can make per core.
 
i read kaby lake will only work with windows10, duno if its just microsoft trying to scare ppl to upgrade or what
but if true i guess that will include all intel cpu's going forward
 
Mei said:
i read kaby lake will only work with windows10, duno if its just microsoft trying to scare ppl to upgrade or what
but if true i guess that will include all intel cpu's going forward
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They said Windows 10 will be the only supported os for Kabylake. Older os'a should work but are not supported
 
Caracus2k said:
Skylake-E isn't going to show (if at all) any time soon, Q2 2017 at the absolute earliest.



Kabylake will be backwards compatible with the Z170 (and other '100' series chipsets) but it will also release with the new '200' series chipset (Union Point) which you will want to buy to get the most from Kaby Lake
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Not really, Q1 maybe, but that is not that far off, it's worth the wait.
 
Caracus2k said:
They said Windows 10 will be the only supported os for Kabylake. Older os'a should work but are not supported
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meaning if u have a problem tough luck?
they wouldnt be lame enough to stop it booting?

i think its just microsoft not wanting to keep updating old versions tho!? like there's not a hardware reason they have said
 
Mei said:
meaning if u have a problem tough luck?
they wouldnt be lame enough to stop it booting?

i think its just microsoft not wanting to keep updating old versions tho!? like there's not a hardware reason they have said
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They won't stop it booting, but you may have trouble getting Windows 7 installed in the first place. I know from the research I was doing into Z170 boards recently that it can be a pain thanks to driver issues, meaning you have to create your own custom installation media with drivers integrated into it.
 
Aretak said:
They won't stop it booting, but you may have trouble getting Windows 7 installed in the first place. I know from the research I was doing into Z170 boards recently that it can be a pain thanks to driver issues, meaning you have to create your own custom installation media with drivers integrated into it.
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that reminds me of sata/raid drivers or whatever it was
yeh thats annoying as hell

apparently kaby also has some new storage stuff built in, like intels answer to hbm/3d nand
looked impressive tho new drives always crazy price :o
 
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