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Don't see a problem with it, why should it cause any problems at all ?. If it was a case of "horse riders" get a 5 second start" i bet there would be no argument form anyone there !
 
Kenai said:
What a waste of time, cyclists already have a head start by virtue of ignoring the red lights to start with!
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I guess that goes for all the drivers that jump red lights, if you want to tar all cyclists with the same brush then all drivers are guilty too
 
Seems like a sensible plan as the cycles all spread out 10 abreast at the front of traffic light queues.
 
I look forward to adding an extra 5 unnecessary seconds to my day every time I'm stopped at a set of traffic lights (with no cyclists around).
And as an occasional cyclist, I'm not sure I see the point. Cars will overtake me anyway, they'll just do it when I'm an extra 20-30m down the road.. so umm why?
 
Just leave it as is, smart cyclists start when the other lights /crossing have turned to red giving them a headstar already. No problem with this.
 
I think the clue is in the article text:-

priority cycle lights had proved successful elsewhere in Europe
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Primarily this apparent 'success' may be attributed to the fact that in many other European countries there exists a completely different cycling culture and relationship between cyclists and other road users in comparison to how it is in this country. Furthermore the cycling infrastructure on the roads in the UK is a token effort at best which certainly doesn't on the whole, lend itself to improving things for cycling. This looks, on face value at least to be just another idea which someone in their wisdom has decided would be good for us in the UK simply because 'it works in other countries so it must be good'.

Having not researched the theory behind it I can't say whther its a good idea or not but to me at the moment at least, as a cyclist, a motorcyclist and a 4 wheeler it looks like another pointless idea transferred over to here from Europe.

I also find it interesting that the ethos behind the idea hasn't even had an attempt made by the article writer to be explained even in short and to the point laymans terms.
 
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When I visited Cambridge I found that there can be so many cyslists that by the time they have got out the way the lights are on amber so one or two cars have to thrash it through just to keep the traffic moving.

I really do think it would work, I just wish they all had insurance as they get so bloody close to my doors sometimes it makes me cringe!
 
Draeger said:
I think the clue is in the article text:-



Primarily this apparent 'success' may be attributed to the fact that in many other European countries there exists a completely different cycling culture and relationship between cyclists and other road users in comparison to how it is in this country. Furthermore the cycling infrastructure on the roads in the UK is a token effort at best which certainly doesn't on the whole, lend itself to improving things for cycling. This looks, on face value at least to be just another idea which someone in their wisdom has decided would be good for us in the UK simply because 'it works in other countries so it must be good'.

Having not researched the theory behind it I can't say whther its a good idea or not but to me at the moment at least, as a cyclist, a motorcyclist and a 4 wheeler it looks like another pointless idea transferred over to here from Europe.

I also find it interesting that the ethos behind the idea hasn't even had an attempt made by the article writer to be explained even in short and to the point laymans terms.
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I agree, as soon as I started reading this my reaction was ..."oh it works in Europe!" ...well then we better rush off like good little EU citizens and make it work here then eh. Quite why we can't just accept the role of the cyclist as 'future road kill' here and just go the other way, be more like America and forget about cycles, I've always thought they are for children to ride before they grow up and get something with an engine anyway.

Where do people get the idea that what works well in a number of continental European countries must work well here. It usually doesn't, and typically is not wanted. I am reasonably sure that more success would be had by trying some Australian ideas on how to run the country rather than Danish or Swiss.
 
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