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Waiting for the RTX 3090

You would think that is a given. Why on earth would you release pci-e 4 capable graphics cards only to demonstrate them on a pci-e 3 system?

Even if the difference today is minimal it’s only going to get larger as more gpu grunt is made available. I’d imagine it would have been cheaper for Nvidia to develop and release Amphere on pci-e 3 so they obviously saw a need to use pci-e 4.

It sure as hell wasn’t so their customers could have more future proof-ness, they have got used to being able to milk their customer base by now.
 
How much are you prepared to pay for 3090?


i have 2k on standby, but i'm really hoping to get a waterblock included with that, i have some extra cash on top to buy a new psu if my sf 750w unit isnt enough, but i'm hopful it will be ok, aib cards that use 2*8 pins rather than the fe cards that are going to use a 12 pin
 
Same boat, got a 9600kf overclocked to 5.1ghz and a 2080 aorus xtreme waterblock card (factory overclocked) playing a 34" ultrawide 3440 x 1440p 144hz and in some games im struggling to keep above 70fps on max settings. Would probably upgrade if the perf is there to achieve higher fps and actually utilise the 144hz on the monitor but dont know if its worth it. Games i've been playing recently are project cars 3, horizon zero dawn, hell let loose and will definitely get into cyber punk when its released.
 
Time to move away from PCI 3.

2080ti was the first card to benefit from greater than PCIE V3 x8. It shows a slight speed improvement moving to x16.

Logically, you'd need a GPU twice as fast as the 2080ti before PCIE-V3 x16 becomes a bottleneck. Lets be overly generous and give it a 10% overhead, we'd need a GPU 90% faster than the 2080ti.

The 3090 will not be 90% faster than the 2080ti - so PCIEv4 will have no benefit. This is just basic common sense and doesn't leave any room for debate.

That said, I'd not recommend anyone invest into a new platform, when we have DDR5, USB4 and PCIEV5 just around the corner, along with Intel's monster performance Alder Lake waiting in the wings.
 
2080ti was the first card to benefit from greater than PCIE V3 x8. It shows a slight speed improvement moving to x16.

Logically, you'd need a GPU twice as fast as the 2080ti before PCIE-V3 x16 becomes a bottleneck. Lets be overly generous and give it a 10% overhead, we'd need a GPU 90% faster than the 2080ti.

The 3090 will not be 90% faster than the 2080ti - so PCIEv4 will have no benefit. This is just basic common sense and doesn't leave any room for debate.

That said, I'd not recommend anyone invest into a new platform, when we have DDR5, USB4 and PCIEV5 just around the corner, along with Intel's monster performance Alder Lake waiting in the wings.

Maybe you should factor burst performance in, or at least explain why the 5700xt shows a slight perf boost on 4 rather than 3 if -> PCIEv4 will have no benefit ? :P
 
See O'clockers has slapped another £100 onto the strix 3090 that just makes me want to wait all the longer and buy else where cheaper scalpers everywhere beware. Another amazing situation I see is the old 2080TI is for sale for over £1399 from e tailers why is that happening. Whoo better get me old 2080TI dusted down and slapped onto flea market for the same price I paid for it which was 1.2K O'clockers was happily advertising at 1.5K go figure.
 
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