want to build a concrete garage - advice!

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Has anybody built a concrete garage?

What did you have to go through in terms of planning for the council?

Asked the council but unless i stump up £75 they won't answer anything on it.

Also the building of it - i want to take one down and build it back up myself.
Are the concrete block manageable for 2 people to load/unload into a van?
Are they easy to put up?

Would i be able to get it done in a day do you reckon?

Cheers in advance.
 
If you're replacing like for like I'd assume the council wouldn't need to be involved.
 
helpimcrap said:
Asked the council but unless i stump up £75 they won't answer anything on it.
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What for? :confused: Anyone can phone up a planning officer and get free advice surely?

Also, what Mr E said. If all you're doing is replacing like for like then the planners wont need to get involved.

Thought I'd ask though, are you meaning concrete panels or concrete blocks with a render finish on it? If its a different material from what exists already they may ask for planning permission on it.
 
Absolutely no chance that you, or probably anyone could do it in a day!! For a start you shouldn't really go more than about 6 blocks high without letting the mortar set overnight or you run the risk of the thing falling down around you!

Then you need to get a roof on there - that's likely to be a couple of days work in itself even if you know what you're doing. Windows, personnel doors, roller door, guttering, electrics?, etc, etc... I assume you were meaning just the blockwork in a day though?

As for planning permission, if it's the same area and height as the one that's already there then you won't have any issues getting permission for it, but as mentioned, if it's a different material you may well need to get permission still.
 
Although your replacing like for like, it's worth contacting your planning office just to clarify things.

Building a detached garage of less than 30 square metres floor area would not normally need building regulations approval if:

The floor area of the detached garage is less than 15 square metres.
The floor area of the garage is between 15 square metres and 30 square metres, provided the garage is at least one metre from any boundary, or it is constructed from substantially non-combustible materials.


Wouldn't want Planning Enforcement Team turning up & asking you to knock it all down again.
 
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it's a parking space owned by me, the property owner. other people have garages on theirs so was thinking it can't be that hard.... but thus far the council has not helped me. they just reference me to the self assessment form and 95% of it is a no so i don't need planning permission except 1 question which they won't answer. they just tell me "Our officers are unable to advise in respect of the boundary to this property without the submission of a Certificate of Lawful Development."

The question states "is it 'over 2.5 metres high and within 2 metres of any boundary at any point?'. the answer to the 2.5m i understand and just need to keep it below that. The boundary is the bit i asked them about. They tell me they can't answer without certificate of lawful development.

I only asked what does boundary mean? Is it a physical house or would that include his parking space as it will be inside 2m as it is next door to each other.
 
:D

http://www.communities.gov.uk/publications/planningandbuilding/developmentcertificates

First thing it says in teh pdf pretty much is "If you get stuck, phone your council planning office"...

:D

Fire in a freedom of information request and write a letter of complaint to the council and cc in your councillor.

Anyway, the certificate is;

"A certificate granted for a proposed use or operation will describe the precise
use or operation on a site in the terms considered permissible without the
need to make a planning application for it."

However I don't think you need one, the question you are stuck with to me sounds like they are asking not only height but horizontal distance to your neighbours land, which a boundary is. If they have garages on their land that are pretty much built directly adjacent to one another you will need council assistance with whatever form it is you have there.
 
helpimcrap said:
Asked the council but unless i stump up £75 they won't answer anything on it.

Cheers in advance.
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Didn't spot that first time, I have never pay any planning officer for advice, usually i've just wandered in & duty officer will see you.

To me a boundary is a fence, wall,etc, seperating two properties.
 
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not getting much joy so went around the close and asked a few neighbours - got a telling off for double parking my car behind someone else (which wasn't anything to do with me - they were parked in my designated space) but also got the local councellors name and number! :)

Sorted! She says he's very helpful and when she bought the house new she had a garage built and only needed this and that from the council. She then progressed onto tell me about how she'd complained about this and got the council to do that and basically gave people what for. Someone i need to keep on my side! lol
 
I built a large gym/storage out building out of breeze blocks. http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showpost.php?p=22194485&postcount=331

The concrete base was already there so we just put the first layer of bricks on that using a laser level to get them all level, put a dpc on that first layer then proceeded to build up. The Bricky tool was a godsend and highly recommended for the home diy'er.
 
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people saying about building them out of bricks aren't quite follwing as this is what i mean.....
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Building it out of brick would take longer and i know a few brickies who could do it but up until last night i had no one to call! :)
 
[FnG]magnolia;22680083 said:
This is going to be brilliant!

(also the second funniest name on these forums, kudos to you sir!)
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it can be applicable at any stage of my life but i try not to live up to expectations lol. :p
 
helpimcrap said:
people saying about building them out of bricks aren't quite follwing as this is what i mean.....

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Building it out of brick would take longer and i know a few brickies who could do it but up until last night i had no one to call! :)
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To be fair in the op you did write concrete garage then refer to them as blocks rather than panels ;)

Is there not instructions on the nucrete website about installation? I've only had to spec up one of those garages cos for some reason Building Control required a warrant for it. Ridiculous!

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http://www.nucrete.co.uk/help-and-resources/technical-specifications/

All the info you need right there ;)
 
Derek W said:
To be fair in the op you did write concrete garage then refer to them as blocks rather than panels ;)

Is there not instructions on the nucrete website about installation? I've only had to spec up one of those garages cos for some reason Building Control required a warrant for it. Ridiculous!

EDIT

http://www.nucrete.co.uk/help-and-resources/technical-specifications/

All the info you need right there ;)
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Thanks. Give me the specs which i know anyway and simply says...

"PLANNING PERMISSION
Most sectional buildings are completely void of the requirement of planning permission or building regulations, but it is always recommended to check with your local planning office before commencement of any building or base work."

This is what i've been trying to do to double check as if i need it and they haven't grsnted it i don't want them ripping it down like on TV lol. :p


Cheers for everyones input so far though. :) Gives me a different perspective and options.

Also made me realise that it says concrete base needed. I', thinking i won't need one as it's already on tarmac - is there any reason why i would? Otherwise it will add 4" to the height and i've need planning permission definitely.
 
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helpimcrap said:
Thanks. Give me the specs which i know anyway and simply says...

"PLANNING PERMISSION
Most sectional buildings are completely void of the requirement of planning permission or building regulations, but it is always recommended to check with your local planning office before commencement of any building or base work."

Yjis is what i've been trying to do to double check as if i need it and they haven't grsnted it i don't want them ripping it down like on TV lol. :p


Cheers for everyones input so far though. :) Gives me a different perspective and options.

Also made me realise that it says concrete base needed. I', thinking i won't need one as it's already on tarmac - is there any reason why i would? Otherwise it will add 4" to the height and i've need planning permission definitely.
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It basically means, before you start any sort of work you should check with the planning department that you dont require any planning or building warrant :rolleyes:

take a photo of your current garage, attach a copy of that other image from nucrete, give planning an email with your street address so they can check things out and ask them if you need planning permission for what you want to do.

Also for the stuff with your tarmac drive, it will probably need to be ripped out and replaced with a concrete raft foundation / base so the garage doesn't sink.
 
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