Want to build a new Computer for Linux as mine is really quite old

If you want lower power, I'd make sure you stick with a Nvidia 8xxx version (or higher) with 512 ram as the newer drivers are starting to support offloading cpu intensive stuff like decoding HDTV to the graphics card.

ATI's Avivo does that.

Anyhow, ignore that. 780G with HD3200 will be fine for your usage :)
 
ATI's Avivo does that.

Anyhow, ignore that. 780G with HD3200 will be fine for your usage :)

oh you have a point there, the 780G is well regarded. My only concern is the ATi linux drivers, they are really bad. Dual screens just will not work on 4870. If that isn't a concern for you then go for a 780G, the chipset is well regarded in the HTPC world, so suits linux! As long as its all supported, which it should be as its a mainstream chipset.
 
Bad idea and quite silly. Costs £100 just for motherboard and CPU and is great if you want a tiny tiny box. However, £140 will buy you a tri-core Phenom (nevermind cores, it's a SUBSTANTIALLY faster processor) and a 780G motherboard.

I know which one I'd rather have. You could even go down a notch from that and pick up an AMD 5050e and 780G motherboard for the same price as the VIA bits.

If you happen to download a nice HD trailer or want to watch a film of quality like that on your 1.2Ghz Eden - good luck in finding it acceptable ;) Then we could get on to GIMP and Wine (CS) performance......

If you actually read my post, you may have noticed that I recommended something " but a with a bit more umph". The point of my suggestion was for an alternative to having to paying an arm and a leg just to get your million core machine to run.

If you done more searching on the model I recommended you may notice that it has a total of 1 gig of ram, and I recommended 4.

Thanks for actually reading my post further then the first line though, appreciate your reply. But yes you won't get HD nicely out of it, but considering the lack of proper 1080p streams, I have not experimented that much with HD however, SD works perfectly.

Seems that OP decided on something now though, so its all a moot point.
 
If you actually read my post, you may have noticed that I recommended something " but a with a bit more umph". The point of my suggestion was for an alternative to having to paying an arm and a leg just to get your million core machine to run.

Your post was still suggesting something LIKE a VIA Eden platform. The OP uses GIMP (and potentially Photoshop under Wine). It was a rubbish idea, just to save a few watts - same price and much worse performance - why?!

You also seem to have something against multiple cores, I don't know why considering Linux is a very capable SMP OS and even for desktop use does very well out of it. If he gets into his photography he can leave GIMP processing on one core and run everything smoothly on the other (as an example).
Heck, with all those useless cores he could even run Windows XP in KVM (with hardware assisted virtualisation which a VIA CPU doesn't have) to use Photoshop CS with the virtual machine making full use of one or two cores, whilst he does everything else on the other.

My only concern is the ATi linux drivers

Having a 780G myself and running Linux on it, I can say I've had no issues under Fedora 9 or Ubuntu 8.10. It's been excellent through and through. Support is set to get better with the use of the new bits in the radeonhd driver (under heavy development). Not long before Nvidia get left behind completely :)

OP, whatever you do, do NOT buy an Nvidia chipset motherboard. Avoid at all costs.
 
Your post was still suggesting something LIKE a VIA Eden platform. The OP uses GIMP (and potentially Photoshop under Wine). It was a rubbish idea, just to save a few watts - same price and much worse performance - why?!
Not being a GIMP pro by a long shot, but I really cannot see the benefit of multi core cpu here. Its not like processing 3d scenes, where yes the more cores the better. In my granted, small understanding of what is involved in digital photography, it just seems overkill to save a few seconds processing when you do one scene at a time.

Now correct me if I am wrong in my understanding of digital photography there. I don't do it, so simply assuming you will be editing a single picture at a time. Ok you can have multiple pictures open, but you need RAM for that, not cpu power.

And single scene performance will not be that much worse between say a 2ghz, single core and a I don't actually keep track whats "hot" now days, but say a 2.3ghz quad core.

You also seem to have something against multiple cores, I don't know why considering Linux is a very capable SMP OS and even for desktop use does very well out of it. If he gets into his photography he can leave GIMP processing on one core and run everything smoothly on the other (as an example).
Oh, no I am not against multi-core at all, got a dual core AMD myself, but that runs windows and used for games. Just here it does not seem that necessary.

Heck, with all those useless cores he could even run Windows XP in KVM (with hardware assisted virtualisation which a VIA CPU doesn't have) to use Photoshop CS with the virtual machine making full use of one or two cores, whilst he does everything else on the other.
Now for that, yes sure, great idea, However OP did not state he wanted to do this. (What does CS stand for in Photoshop CS? I am guessing not counter-strike :D haha)

I was simply suggesting what hardware OP could get that will still get the job done, but not waste as much resources, considering how much electricity costs now days. Obviously if he wants to dabble into other "arty" things for instance 3D, I would never dream of recommending something like that.
 
Now correct me if I am wrong in my understanding of digital photography there. I don't do it, so simply assuming you will be editing a single picture at a time. Ok you can have multiple pictures open, but you need RAM for that, not cpu power.

Mainly for applying filters and the like. People have seen a HUGE difference in GIMP on SMP systems since it supported it (2.3.X) - depending on exactly what they are doing performance can increase by factors of a few minutes by throwing two cores at the image processing. There are quite a few examples about on the web.

Also, in regards to multitasking: http://www.anandtech.com/linux/showdoc.aspx?i=2463&p=6
 
Also.. He might decide to get into "crunching" Boincs projects.

In which case.. Multiple Cores
GIVE YA DA JOOS
 
Having a 780G myself and running Linux on it, I can say I've had no issues under Fedora 9 or Ubuntu 8.10. It's been excellent through and through. Support is set to get better with the use of the new bits in the radeonhd driver (under heavy development). Not long before Nvidia get left behind completely :)

OP, whatever you do, do NOT buy an Nvidia chipset motherboard. Avoid at all costs.

Ok so I am going with the 780G + AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core 6000 3.10GHz

What ram should I get for this and HDD also will my 340w power supply be good enough for this.

on another note I went into purple shirt shop today they had a few books on Linux and Ubuntu..was going to pick one up but £25 seemed a lot of money was just wondering if there is any Linux books that would be worth getting ? as I still have a lot to learn being new to linux.;)
 
Tell me how it goes with your use of Mint and your photography.
I am having a hard time adjusting, the lack of Lightroom type of apps in Linux and having to run only photoshop CS2 underwine (when I have CS3) is annoying.

Just went through using F-Stop as photo manager, which is rather crude when I do most of my shots in RAW. Tried UFRaw, it does RAW images one at a time... and GIMP on its own don't like Canon's CR2 RAW images :(

Apart from these grumble with photography and Linux, it's been very very good so far~ Just that little piece of pie I cannot get unless I jump in for apps like Lightzone?
 
What ram should I get for this
For image manipulation as much as possible. Now days id say 2 gig is minimum.

on another note I went into purple shirt shop today they had a few books on Linux and Ubuntu..was going to pick one up but £25 seemed a lot of money was just wondering if there is any Linux books that would be worth getting ? as I still have a lot to learn being new to linux.;)
Generally any O'Riley (sp?) books are considered good. You can always use this or any other million and one guides available online. Instead of a generic linux book, get one that covers what you want to do like digital photography. Unless you are looking to be running things like photoshop under wine.

Really its just about having a go and exploring.
 
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