Wanting muscle gains

[grudas]

eat tea? I normally have some food before gym, simply works out this way... but I often eat some cottage cheese with a banana sliced in and a glass of milk.

and then a proper meal right after.

 

[davejh666]

I eat naff all before I go to the gym, but that's because 99% of the time I go just before 6am.

Have a shake and a protein cookie immediately after then some peanut butter on toast when I get to work.

 

[OpenToSuggestions]

I eat naff all before I go to the gym, but that's because 99% of the time I go just before 6am.

Have a shake and a protein cookie immediately after then some peanut butter on toast when I get to work.

Seems such a shame putting all the effort in when your tank is running on empty.
Without any blood sugar you're really not going to be pushing yourself in weight training because you'll be knackered.

Even a single piece of toast with peanut butter and a banana would make the world of difference!

 

[arknor]

people seriously spend hours in the gym??

I thought most peoples weight session was maybe 30-45 minutes and half that time is spent waiting a minute each time for the next rep

 

[davejh666]

Seems such a shame putting all the effort in when your tank is running on empty.
Without any blood sugar you're really not going to be pushing yourself in weight training because you'll be knackered.

Even a single piece of toast with peanut butter and a banana would make the world of difference!

I have Bullnox pre-workout before I go, but that is it. That stuff makes me want to lift everything in sight

people seriously spend hours in the gym??

I thought most peoples weight session was maybe 30-45 minutes and half that time is spent waiting a minute each time for the next rep

I used to, but my workout was seriously busy/messy. I would guess if it was just weights without any cardio I would be in there for about 30 mins now, and as you said probably 40% of that is the 'resting' time between sets and another 25% is looking for the correct weights.

This morning I got there at 6.15 and was in the shower by 6.50 with 15 mins on the treadmill.

 

[mrthingyx]

Seems such a shame putting all the effort in when your tank is running on empty.
Without any blood sugar you're really not going to be pushing yourself in weight training because you'll be knackered.

Even a single piece of toast with peanut butter and a banana would make the world of difference!

What you are talking about is circulating, easy access amino acids and associated bangles and baubles the body needs to repair: a simple coffee with cream in it or glass of milk can help with this.

Some people go for BCAAs, but I have never had a problem lifting on just a coffee first thing in the AM and if time is taken to adapt to such a regime, most people can, too.

 

[413x]

Interested in this thread too
Out of a long term relationship and gym is only thing keeps me going at the minute

I'm bit further along than op, but pretty clueless and been doing stuff ad hoc.
Meal thing is my worst area!

FYI I'm 6ft and 13st.. I suppose a waist measurement is helpful, 32in

Basically not only does this make me feel better but helps with the future online dating where everything is initially looks. Can't pretend it isn't.

 

[OpenToSuggestions]

What you are talking about is circulating, easy access amino acids and associated bangles and baubles the body needs to repair: a simple coffee with cream in it or glass of milk can help with this.

Some people go for BCAAs, but I have never had a problem lifting on just a coffee first thing in the AM and if time is taken to adapt to such a regime, most people can, too.

Fair enough.

I am new to BCAA and have bought my first lot a few weeks ago.
They are only the cheap Mutant ones.

I think they help me train a bit, but wow they literally half DOMS in soreness (not time).

 

[arknor]

I'm not convinced most these tablets are anything but a placebo.

protein shakes work though.

if I got for a 2-4 hour bike ride my legs will be aching after, have a protein shake as soon as I get home and I feel decent a few hours later.
If I don't I'll feel like crap all the day no matter how much meat I eat, it also means I need a day less resting.

I seems important to get protein into your body as fast as possible when your muscles are wrecked

 

[FrenchTart]

You need carbs too and there's no harm adding some fat in there. Just having protein after a workout (especially a cycle) isn't optimal though it's certainly better than having nothing.

 

[mrthingyx]

Fair enough.

I am new to BCAA and have bought my first lot a few weeks ago.
They are only the cheap Mutant ones.

I think they help me train a bit, but wow they literally half DOMS in soreness (not time).

I'm not convinced most these tablets are anything but a placebo.

protein shakes work though.

if I got for a 2-4 hour bike ride my legs will be aching after, have a protein shake as soon as I get home and I feel decent a few hours later.
If I don't I'll feel like crap all the day no matter how much meat I eat, it also means I need a day less resting.

I seems important to get protein into your body as fast as possible when your muscles are wrecked

You need carbs too and there's no harm adding some fat in there. Just having protein after a workout (especially a cycle) isn't optimal though it's certainly better than having nothing.

The purpose of 'eating' before a workout is to reduce the body's catabolic (cortisol) response to stimulus. BCAAs, glucose and types of fat can reduce the response by several orders of magnitude, leading to better-feeling workouts and increased rebuilding response to strenuous exercise.

There is nothing magical about BCAAs:they have a low calorific density, meaning they don't alter body chemistry too much before going for a workout, despite providing the 'right' nutrients for the body's impending stress.

Measuring impact on DOMS is hard, because the body adapts to the exercise regime over the period of 1-3 weeks (depending), so DOMS naturally reduces in severity over that time. In other words:

"Try some deficit Bulgarian split squats - your legs will thank you."

 

[arknor]

You need carbs too and there's no harm adding some fat in there. Just having protein after a workout (especially a cycle) isn't optimal though it's certainly better than having nothing.

yea I have a shake whilst other food is cooking just like a top me up.
seems to help massively with fatigue

 

[FrenchTart]

The purpose of 'eating' before a workout is to reduce the body's catabolic (cortisol) response to stimulus. BCAAs, glucose and types of fat can reduce the response by several orders of magnitude, leading to better-feeling workouts and increased rebuilding response to strenuous exercise.

There is nothing magical about BCAAs:they have a low calorific density, meaning they don't alter body chemistry too much before going for a workout, despite providing the 'right' nutrients for the body's impending stress.

Measuring impact on DOMS is hard, because the body adapts to the exercise regime over the period of 1-3 weeks (depending), so DOMS naturally reduces in severity over that time. In other words:

"Try some deficit Bulgarian split squats - your legs will thank you."

Indeed. I wasn't talking about pre-workout but recovery food - and primarily in response to arknor talking about cycling

 

[mrthingyx]

Indeed. I wasn't talking about pre-workout but recovery food - and primarily in response to arknor talking about cycling

Sorry - I'm having one of those days. Where is my super-massive tar brush? *facepalm*

 

[FrenchTart]

Sorry - I'm having one of those days. Where is my super-massive tar brush? *facepalm*

To be fair I didn't quote him in my post so it's easy enough to miss