Warning of measles outbreak in London

[Hagar]

The consequences of infection are no worse than they ever were.

An increased likelihood of contracting mumps or measles in the unvaccinated in recent years could mean the number of complications is higher.

I suppose it is also possible that, if you do not recognise the benefits of vaccination, you might also be less likely to recognise symptoms and seek early treatment. Who knows?

In response to the migrants posts, TB in particular has increased prevalence recently and it is suspected that many of these cases are in recent migrants*. Don't remember measles or mumps being linked to incoming migrants.

*to be fair, street people are also at high risk

Mumps in later years can seriously affect mens ability to produce children. It was always thought that to get these diseases over early was a positive. I don't know about measles in later life but again it may be worse than as a ten year old. Vaccines are a good thing.
TB was a problem still in the seventies and I knew a few cases however since then I thought it was probably wiped out. Wrongly.

 

[potatolord]

Mumps in later years can seriously affect mens ability to produce children. It was always thought that to get these diseases over early was a positive. I don't know about measles in later life but again it may be worse than as a ten year old. Vaccines are a good thing.
TB was a problem still in the seventies and I knew a few cases however since then I thought it was probably wiped out. Wrongly.

Yep, mumps can affect fertility, measles can in rare cases cause encephalitis (bad bad bad!), and rubella can be very dangerous in pregnancy as it affects the developing foetus.

Until recently, you were right. TB has increased in recent years. One issue is street people are less likely to complete treatment, which leads to outbreaks.

 

[cheesefest]

Most kids in my generation had all three, measles, mumps and chicken pox during their time at school. Nowadays it is hugely less prevalent so could be more serious maybe.

Had chicken pox, Rubella (the mmr wasn’t available when I was a toddler - had rubella jab aged 10) and mumps at 5, 7 and 8 years.

 

[BUDFORCE]

My friends both had measles in their early 20s both brothers, so this was about 20 years ago now.

One had "milder" symptoms although was still in an isolation ward in hospital, his vision was messed up for ages after.

The other nearly died, he sent me a selfie from his hospital bed and no joke looked like a dead body.

Thankfully both fully recovered.

 

[Dirk Diggler]

With the very real risks that come from measles I wonder how many parents could end up beating themselves up if their children catch it and end up with complications

Any parent that refused their child medicine will not take the responsibility for the effects of the inevitable illness. They bought the CT crap about the medicine, so they'll just lap up the CT crap that this measles outbreak was injected into kids by the government as a punishment for refusing to take the vaccine.

When it comes to conspiracy theorists, it's never their fault and they're always right no matter what your eyes and ears tell you.

 

[Bluecube]

I really feel for the kids as cliche as it is to say. They‘ve got no chance in life with dumb parents that refuse inoculation jabs.

 

[cheesefest]

I really feel for the kids as cliche as it is to say. They‘ve got no chance in life with dumb parents that refuse inoculation jabs.

Yet the parents inject drugs like heroin. Probably injected drugs when pregnant.

 

[Bluecube]

Yet the parents inject drugs like heroin. Probably injected drugs when pregnant.

It’s not just limited to the dregs of society. Conspiracy theory nonsense permeates through all stratas of society. There are many well off middle class parents who don’t believe in inoculating their children despite benefitting from such inoculations themselves

 

[Colonel_Klinck]

Whilst we cannot make vaccinations compulsory for UK born we should IMO make them compulsory for anyone wanting to move to live here.
Short period (say 90 days) to get done, or whoosh off you go.

I'm surprised it isn't the case. Many countries don't let you in unless you are vaccinated against certain diseases. I had so many vaccinations when I used to travel lots for my work at the time. No vaccination card, no entry.

 

[Blackjack Davy]

Had chicken pox, Rubella (the mmr wasn’t available when I was a toddler - had rubella jab aged 10) and mumps at 5, 7 and 8 years.

I've had MMR my mother told me as to whether I had the second measles jab I don't know you need two for full protection apparently (had chicken pox as a disease I don't think there was a vaccine then and it was horrible)

Most kids these days have had the MMR vaccine no?

Its falling all the time the reason 95% is the target is because at that level if one person is infected almost everyone they come into contact with will be immune so the disease can't spread in the population but the lower the level the more it can jump from unvaccincated to unvaccinated person and multiply and before you know it you've got a health emergency and measles is one of the most infectious diseases one person can potentially spread it to 15 others

 

[VincentHanna]

Whilst we cannot make vaccinations compulsory for UK born we should IMO make them compulsory for anyone wanting to move to live here.
Short period (say 90 days) to get done, or whoosh off you go.

I'd have no issues with this to be honest.

 

[bigmike20vt]

Yeah but vaccines do cause autism, I know because Shirley on Facebook shared a completely legit post about it.

i wouldn't know..... my phone is 5G and as soon as I found out about the nanites I had to shut it off.

 

[bigmike20vt]

Whilst we cannot make vaccinations compulsory for UK born we should IMO make them compulsory for anyone wanting to move to live here.
Short period (say 90 days) to get done, or whoosh off you go.

I would vote for that. sadly we can't cure our own "stupid" (without civil war) but we can keep other countries stupid from coming in

 

[dowie]

Seems like a combo of CT nutters and immigrants, I don't know why we don't have tougher health screening and compulsory vaccinations as part of our immigration requirements.

Ditto to people who work in healthcare, education and childcare... should be compulsory. I found it quite shocking that even during the pandemic a large number of supposed healthcare professionals didn't take the covid vaccine when offered.

 

[ltron]

I've had MMR my mother told me as to whether I had the second measles jab I don't know you need two for full protection apparently (had chicken pox as a disease I don't think there was a vaccine then and it was horrible)


Its falling all the time the reason 95% is the target is because at that level if one person is infected almost everyone they come into contact with will be immune so the disease can't spread in the population but the lower the level the more it can jump from unvaccincated to unvaccinated person and multiply and before you know it you've got a health emergency and measles is one of the most infectious diseases one person can potentially spread it to 15 others

In some parts of London it's only 69% I read. Shocking stuff in this day and age particularly.