Washing machine on the blink!

John lewis will also pricematch, and when you then take into account the warranty they offer, it is far better value.
 
Hmm, interesting. I have just stuck it on a short wash and wacked the temp up and the fuse hasn't blown. :confused:

Maybe there needs to be a load. Ah well, i have some more pants i need to wash, so they can go on next.
 
Better late than never. From what i can tell the water heated up as the clothes didnt come out cold.

Anyway, it has started again, so i pulled the machine out and this time i had it on its side, and what i assume is the heater element that goes into the bottom of the drum, where the positive connection is, there is massive melted plastic bits, so i can only assume either the heater element has gone or the temp sensor switch, however, as the thing blows early (like 1 minute into the cycle) it must be the element as the temp sensor would allow it to go mega hot before blowing, and water doesnt get hot that fast.

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I assume the blue is the live and you can see compared to the other side that its not looking too good!
 
Yeah, that picture is no help :( Conventional wiring colours would mean that blue is neutral. The only way of knowing is to see what the colour of the other wire is or to put a VM across the terminals.
 
lol, yeah, err, window mobile is not the best at taking pics!

What we have is a blue wire to the left of the element (nearest in the pic), then we have the earth wire that hooks to the drum (middle nearest - Green/Yellow) then, we have some weird red cabble that doesn't have a proper connection clip, just connects straight to a pin that goes into the element (middle far) and last but not least we have an orange cable that connects using a copy of the blue connector, this is fine and no melting has taken place. The blue cable is the melted plastic connector cable.

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Mad bosch engineers have used some funkie colours here! :rolleyes:
 
Blue is neutral, orange is live, yellow/green is earth and the red one is probably the thermostat. Be careful as the heaters are 240V. Undo the nut on the earth and the heater will release and slide out, a new one is probably about £10 :)
 
Morning,

I managed to undo the nut but no amount of force would remove the element. Do you think that the drum has to come all apart to get the element out?

Here is a part break down of the machine in question...

https://portal.bsh-partner.com/serv...eID=645C8689C148CC4086E45AC57DC13036&NoClose=

We are looking at part 264986

Thinking about it, the nut on the bolt didn't seem to suggest that the item slides out of the drum, so i am quite confused now.

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Got the wrong machine! lol
 
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So why would a heating element cause the fuse to blow then? The rating of this thing is 1900W. It just looks like a big bit of metal. Is there any inetrnal circuitry on these things?
 
Could be corroded/bad earthing so as soon as the element is supplied with power it routes to earth causing a bigger current draw than intended therefore blows a fuse.
 
It'll be stuck in there pretty tight. Give the thread a tap and get some big pliers on it. The other end looks like a stretched out kettle element and will be all furred up.

1900W is just shy of 8 Amps, that's quite a lot so it's got beefy cables going to it. Short it out internally and it will easily blow a 13A fuse.
 
Okay, i shall give it another go to try and remove the element tonight, although i am still confused as to how the element can short out. :confused: Its too much for my simpleton brain on a wednesday! lol
 
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Okay, i shall give it another go to try and remove the element tonight, although i am still confused as to how the element can short out. :confused: Its too much for my simpleton brain on a wednesday! lol
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Maybe the element has cracked, and water is getting in, hence the short.
 
Just looking at the wiki and i think it must be one of these type of elements... (Jonny69 to confirm?)

Calrod (sealed element): a fine coil of Nichrome wire in a ceramic binder, sealed inside a tough metal shell. These can be a straight rod (as in toaster ovens) or curved to fit in a smaller space (such as in electric stoves, ovens, and coffee makers).
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If there was a crack then water touching the wire would short it, so i think i see what you are saying Basmic.
 
Well no amount of smacking or pulling moved the current element, so it looks like a service visit to get it replaced, which sucks! :(

This is what it looks like...
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I cant see how that screws to the bottom???? :confused:

Infact i don't think that screw is the issue. It looks like it is only there to tap an earth wire in if required. Damn thing! :mad:
 
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Touching cloth and touching wood! I have managed at last to pull the old element out and replaced it with a new one. So far it hasn't blown or leaked on a 90 degs wash! :eek:

I think i am going to stack up on calgon as well, because the old element was plastered in limescale. Damn this hard water in the south east!
 
Quite cunning the way it holds itself in. Tightening the nut squashes the rubber bit out and it wedges itself into the tub. As you found it locks itself in pretty tight! Glad you got it working ;)
 
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