Water cooling advice please

CyZMyAssBaby

CyZMyAssBaby

CyZMyAssBaby

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Greetings to you all :)

Never joined a forum before, but i have been reading o/c forum for the last 3 months and found the information informative. Also the forum is very friendly:D

I have no doubts that this is listed somewhere amongst the threads, so please accept my apologies if this question does not appear in the correct thread :rolleyes:.

I have been overclocking and tinkering on air over the last couple of years, and have decided to move into water cooling not only for o/c but for quiteness and dabbling in another *upgrade* so to say.

The advice i require is the correct order of connecting my loop ie cpu, rad, graphics card, pump (DDT with plexi res). Im just slightly confused what goes into and goes out to.

Thanks to all for the advice, recommendation
 
Only restriction on sequence is keeping the res before pump to avoid cavitation, but yours is integral so any put in any order you want.

Keep the tubing short and kink free and the rad fed with external air to maximise performance.

What size rad do you have?, idealy minimum of a dual, triple even better for that set-up.
 
Hi Dave Mac

I have a 360 extreme pro Rev.2 with x3 yate loons (1200rpm) 120mmx25mm connected to zalman fan controller mfc2. I have mounted the radiator externally on the top of the case. This has provided a 3.5 inch gap (top of case to the base of the radiator). Also put the rad in one old set of tights to reduce dust build up :eek:. Also covered fan grill with an old set of tights :eek:. Air restriction negligable:cool:. Dust prevention:D (can allways tell her royal highness its a new ironing board!!)

I might need to upgrade the case fans i think? would that be of benefit?
 
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Not heard of that rad though I'd guess it has a dense core.

Dense core rads benefit from more powerful fans, ideally 38mm deep ones for greater pressure such as Panaflo/NBM-MAT.

Rads with less dense cores such as the Thermochill PA series get away with lower speed / quieter fans.
 
CyZMyAssBaby said:
Thanks for the reply DaveMac,

testing and review of the rad can be found here. In german, but translation available for website. Comments invited.
the test showed some good results, and hopefully i may even get some good results?

http://www.awardfabrik.de/index.php?p=reviewpages&id=153&seite=1
Click to expand...

I would really recommend upgrading the CPU block as that cpu block wont be as effective as current cpu coolers on a quad core processor, i recommend a d-tek Fuzion or Swiftech GTX cpu block, also what tubing size do you use and pump? pics would be nice.
 
Thanks for advice sinny,

Im not going to change the block at this moment in time as i like to investigate alternatives. Although the blocks you recommend are good blocks, i just cant resist german engineering. I use G1/4 thread to 8/10mm tubing. No intention moving upto 1/2". Pump is a Laing DDC Pro 420l/hr as the copper block is low restriction and weighs in at a hefty 330gs.
 
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Thats some good kit you have there. The rad is one of the best. You sure you dont mean you have a DDC pump? An Ultra perhaps?

Don't worry about tubing size. It makes little difference anyway.
 
No matter what people say the truth is (and proved by physics) that it does not matter what order you ahve them in as the water is in a closed environment and therefore will balance into a state of equilibrium. The amount of pressure is also spread so it does not matter if you put water blocks at the end which cause bigger drops in preasure either.

Just put them in the order which uses the least amount of tubing and which is affected the least by mavity and it will be the best order.
 
The best tubing to use would be Masterkleer 7/16" ID (5/8" OD) PVC Tubing. Ive typed it out to many times so this is a copy and paste:

"It's ID matches the ID of most 1/2" hose barbs giving a smoother flow path
As it's slightly smaller than 1/2", simply heat up the tubing in warm water before pushing over barbs. Once it's shrunk down, it provides a snug tight seal generally abolishing the need for hoseclamps
It has a very nice bend radius for tight bends without kinking
Altho it's OD difference to 1/2" Tygon etc is minimal, it is sufficient to make for a cleaner looking, less cluttered system"
 
Hehe. The pump you have is arguably the best ATM. I have the same but with an OClabs top.

It is true that the nexxos XP block just isnt up to quad core cooling. Considerably worse than the Fuzion and GTX in fact.

Personally I would go with a D-Tek Fusion block. I just don't trust Swiftech and thier claims/machining quality and Aluminium tops.
 
Thanks BigDave for the advice, as also DaveMac you both recommend shortest possible route of pipe work without kinks. i will be sure to find the shortest route. Here comes the drill!!!
 
Cheers weescott,
Not sure if the nexxos xp is upto quad core cooling as i have been unable to find any reliable data. There was a review done (have link somewhere will have to trawl through copeious amounts of data) End of 2006 i think. Nexxos Xp vs Swifttech apogee? Interesting result. I will find the link and post.

My line of thought is if a artic pro can cool a quad core and weighs in at 520g, of which is not all block but fan and fins including 6 copper pipes. Then i would say the nexxox xp a solid block of 330g can hold its ground with a quad core.

Also i am unable to use aluminum blocks due to the thermal paste i use

Weescott you may find this information helpful http://forum.overclock3d.net/showthread.php?p=163232
 
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The issue with the Nexxos is that is was designed for single core CPU's. It worked fine for dual cores as well. But with quads there is a bigger surface area to cool.
 
also if you want a bit of fun put the resivoir above the radiotor and pump, its quite cool to watch as you add the water.
 
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