Watercooling my next rig

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Right I need to sort out some waterblocks for the following rig.

£663.18 2 AMD Opteron 270 (£331.59*2)
£318.43 Tyan Thunder K8WE (non-SCSI)
£86.95 SilverStone Temjin TJ05
£103.39 FSP Sparkle Epsilon 700W
£160.48 2 1GB Corsair PC3200(DDR400) (£80.24*2)
Total= £1332.43 (excl. delivery)

So I need,
2 Northbridge water blocks? Am I right in thinking those 2 black low profile heatsinks at the bottoms of the SLI slots are northbridge block sized?
2 940 CPU water blocks
1 Pump (or 2? 1 for each CPU)
1 Radiator (360x120. Or would two smaller be better? perhaps 2 240x120's?)
1 Reservoir
And a GPU water block

Can anyone recommend any good waterblocks?
I think 2 Little River Storm G5's would be nice, what you think?
And what other good blocks are there for everything else?

On the Little River Waterblocks website it says:

Q: I've heard about a silver Storm/G5 - what's that? When will it be available? How much will it cost?

The silver based Storm/G5 is the high-end version of the Storm block. It will utilise a solid pure fine silver (>99.995% purity) base-plate. Internally it is different to the regular copper Storm/G4, featuring a higher complexity and higher perfoming variant of the basic Storm design.

The silver Storm/G5 is presently in the design phase. The first prototypes should be completed by around the end of October. Once prototyping and testing is complete, it will be available through a two step purchase process. First a deposit will need to be put down to cover the cost of obtaining the silver at the available price of silver at that time, and once production is complete, a final payment will be required for the outstanding balance of the completed block.

Due to the cost of the silver, the silver Storm/G5 blocks will be produced in organised batches on a periodical basis. A pre-order would be placed, and you will have some time to make a deposit before the batch cut-off period is reached and the silver is then ordered and the batch commenced. If you miss a batch cut-off date you will have to wait until the next batch.

I would expect to be ready to be accepting pre-orders for the silver Storm/G5 by around early November at this point in time.

The final cost of the silver Storm/G5 is estimated to be around the $150-160US mark.
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afaik Cathar has ceased production of the Storm blocks .. maybe wrong tho

2 Northbridge water blocks? Am I right in thinking those 2 black low profile heatsinks at the bottoms of the SLI slots are northbridge block sized?

IMO better leaving as they are, or attatching some larger passive, shaped heatsinks with pins / epoxy

2 940 CPU water blocks

ATM your best bets are : Swiftech Storm, AquaXtreme MP-05 LE, Alphacool NexXos

1 Pump (or 2? 1 for each CPU)

1 Dangerden D5 or AquaXtreme AQ50Z would be fine, but dual would be better, serial is better than parallel 99% of the time, however, you could use a pump per cpu and gpu (if SLIing) and then use a seperate rad for each, and use a bay res with 4 sets of barbs (if you get my drift)

1 Radiator (360x120. Or would two smaller be better? perhaps 2 240x120's?)

much of a muchness really... if doing dual loops, 2 x 120.2 would be ideal, if one large loop, go for a Thermochill PA120

1 Reservoir

1 is plenty... or a T-LIne :)

And a GPU water block

AquaXtreme MP-01 or DD Maze4 or NVxx (full cover block will give IDENTICAL performance to the maze on the core, however the added restriction of the ram cooling may SLIGHTLY raise overall temps (it didnt on my loop)
 
939 blocks fit 940 sockets i believe, well im using two danger den tdx blocks on my 940 board... but may i suggest u get some more ram you have 4 cores and only 2 gb or ram thats 512mb per core a bit low you really need 4gb thats 1 gb per core :)
 
ichabod crane said:
939 blocks fit 940 sockets i believe, well im using two danger den tdx blocks on my 940 board... but may i suggest u get some more ram you have 4 cores and only 2 gb or ram thats 512mb per core a bit low you really need 4gb thats 1 gb per core :)
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I'm just starting with 2gb to get it online then I will drop another two of the same dimms in :)
 
jellybeard999 said:
afaik Cathar has ceased production of the Storm blocks .. maybe wrong tho
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Yeh he did stop them that why i got one ages before i got my watercooling but now they makeing them again
 
kinggost said:
Yeh he did stop them that why i got one ages before i got my watercooling but now they makeing them again
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He sold the patent of the G4 (Copper version) to Swiftech so their block is identical (but looks nicer than the original Storms).

I think he is still in the pre-production phase of making his "ultimate" waterblock (G7). Pop over to OCAU where he lives and check the threads out. Silver Block "Final cost price to me, and for anyone who wants to pre-order one will be: AUD $310"

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OCAU

Might have to register there first. Dont worry OCUK - not a competitor, just a support forum like this one. :)

Here are details of the G series and improvements he wanted to make for the G7 (note: iirc the performance gain is not that large over the G4/5):

G1 = 1 jet
G2 = 7 jets
G3 = 19 jets
G4 = 35-37 jets (implemented G4 has 35 jets)
G5 = 55-61 jets (implemented G5 has 59 jets)
G6 = 85-91 jets
G7 = 117-127 jets (implemented G7 has 117 jets)
G8 = 155-169 jets (could only machine on aerospace quality equipment)

As for the design improvements over the original base Storm design specification:

* Increased jet inlet plenum area to lower pressure drop (thicker top-plate enables a more voluminous plenum so water can reach all jet inlets with minimal restriction - visible to eye))
* Ported jet intakes to lower pressure drop (jet intakes are now all ellipse radiused using a custom manufactured tool - visible to eye)
* Tweaked jet lengths to lower pressure drop (jet lengths are shorter - internal + external mod, middle plate is significantly thinner too)
* Tweaked jet outlets to lower pressure drop (each jet outlet is chamfered around the outside of the jet tube to offer less restriction for flow exiting the cup structure - barely visible to eye)
* Multiple flow path channels to outlet to both decrease pressure drop, and more evenly distribute jet flow and total base-plate cooling (self-explanatory and very visible to eye)
* Base-plate bracing to boost structural strength for high-pressure CPU mounting (the 12 little posts that surround the jet area brace the base-plate and also serve as additional water turbulation for water outwash cooling effect over base-plate outside of main jetted area)
* Improved top-plate strength for higher pressure mounting capability (just a thicker top-plate, which is offset by thinner middle plate)
* Middle-plate bracing to improve jet/cup alignment when used with high-pressure pumps (additional consequence of the middle plate posts - reduces middle plate flexing meaning jets stay better focused with respect to their cup counterparts under very high pressure operation - meaning >>10psi)
* Improved O-ring specifications to minimise assembly based warping (smaller O-rings and slightly wider O-ring groove dimensions, thereby meaning less clamping pressure required to seal minimising the amount of pressure that gets applied to the base-plate effectively eliminating base-plate flex on assembly)
* Additional O-ring seal between inlet to middle plate plenum and outlet (this one's for the armchair waterblock critics - I never deemed it necessary but people often griped about the design needing one even though it doesn't, so I put it there to keep them happy anyway - may as well)
* Improved cup/wall ratios for higher performance (minor ratio adjustments - added base-plate strength too)
* Improved jet turbulators for higher performance (two prototypes being tested)
* Improved base-plate characteristics for higher performance (adjusted base-plate thickness suitable for G7+silver)
* Improved jet/cup ratios for higher performance (tweaked ratio adjustment)
* Improved low-flow performance without sacrificing high-flow performance (micro-jetted efficiencies are much higher even with lower flow rates - also a consequence of turbulator modifications and jet/cup ratio adjustments)
* Improved small bare-die performance (down to 7x7mm CPU dies) without sacrificing IHS performance. (simulated and tested adjustments to attempt to cover the widest possible variety of CPU types)
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Cathar's orignal G4/G5 looked WAAAY nicer than the Swiffy version IMO

I have a LR Cascade block, and it still outperforms most blocks on the market, even though it's a few years old :)

Personally, when it comes to copper vs silver blocks, the 0.5*C isnt worth the cost IMO ... unless you fancy spending, or drop on one at a good price
 
jellybeard999 said:
Cathar's orignal G4/G5 looked WAAAY nicer than the Swiffy version IMO

I have a LR Cascade block, and it still outperforms most blocks on the market, even though it's a few years old :)

Personally, when it comes to copper vs silver blocks, the 0.5*C isnt worth the cost IMO ... unless you fancy spending, or drop on one at a good price
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Really?! The top plate on my original G4 is just a bit of black metal with holes drilled in it. Not that nice imo! :)

Original Storm:
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Swiftech Storm:
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The LR G4's ive seen have generally been polished steel top plate, which looks awesome with the black delrin body underneath :) IMO at least, its all personal ;)

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I still like the old skool look of my block :p

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