"We have found the formula for a perfect model relationship." [ARTICLE]

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If you notice there has been a massive push by women towards polyamory etc.

Wonder why?

Who do you think benefits most from that kind of arrangement? she fires up Tinder and has 100's of matches within an hour and dudes lining up to pipe her. Even as a middle ground looks man you fire up Tinder at best will have a handful of matches.

I've just been noticing this over the years....a push by these women/feminists and media to "end monagamy" and their **** husbands agree because they are afraid to lose their wife/GF. Louis theroux did a documentary on this (it's on the BBC) and all the guys on it looked like totally defeated losers.

Whats funny is though when you see women push for an open relationship and the guy all of sudden starts getting tail. They all of sudden do a 180 and want to be exclusive again.... funny that.

All I say to guys is don't fall for it, and don't fall for the shaming tactics of "oh you must be soooo insecure". It's such an easy way to frame it and get what they want.

If the arrangement is a good 50/50 split go ahead. But you will always notice there is a massive disparity between who benefits from the arrangement and who doesn't.
 
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If you notice there has been a massive push by women towards polyamory etc.

Wonder why?

Who do you think benefits most from that kind of arrangement? she fires up Tinder and has 100's of matches within an hour and dudes lining up to pipe her. Even as a middle ground looks man you fire up Tinder at best will have a handful of matches.

I've just been noticing this over the years....a push by these women/feminists and media to "end monagamy" and their **** husbands agree because they are afraid to lose their wife/GF. Louis theroux did a documentary on this (it's on the BBC) and all the guys on it looked like totally defeated losers.

Whats funny is though when you see women push for an open relationship and the guy all of sudden starts getting tail. They all of sudden do a 180 and want to be exclusive again.... funny that.

All I say to guys is don't fall for it, and don't fall for the shaming tactics of "oh you must be soooo insecure". It's such an easy way to frame it and get what they want.

If the arrangement is a good 50/50 split go ahead. But you will always notice there is a massive disparity between who benefits from the arrangement and who doesn't.

Then it would be the boyfriend/husbando's fault for not doing so in-kind, wouldn't it. I believe it would be far more "alpha" to either ditch the abuser or agree a mutual polyamory relationship, you only think it benefits women most because that is what society has blasted for decades about a woman's worth, an object to be sex'd or pushed into positions to make it organisations look good.

The person it benefits most is a free person who decides things for themselves, not women or the damaged society at large who feels you should do things the "correct" way. If people can mutually agree to it, over wasting time in multiple failed relationships, then that's their choice and not some judgement passed down from invisible hands.
 
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Jesus it's the Guardian. I imagine this is s normal slice of their male readership.
Pretending he his happy and ok with the situation. Emotionally manipulated into thinking that's normal.
Poor guy, as long as keeps pretending it's fine, none of my beeswax
 
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Jesus it's the Guardian. I imagine this is s normal slice of their male readership.
Pretending he his happy and ok with the situation. Emotionally manipulated into thinking that's normal.
Poor guy, as long as keeps pretending it's fine, none of my beeswax
Yeah it's pretty much impossible for somebody who is monogamous to be with somebody who is polygamous, he's either into the cuckold kink or is being emotionally abused. My guess is that he is financial and emotional provider for her and the younger man is much more attractive, so he's essentially paying money and mental effort for something she gives to the other guy for free. :D
 
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And that's the end of my reading a Guardian article ever again. The **** paper. Sign up and have your soul wither like a good ****.
 
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I have nothing against polyamory, in fact I think it might be the way relationships are in the future, but it must be fair, if she is having sex with another man he should be allowed to have sex with another woman.
 
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Are there any men who read the guardian who wouldn't be ok with this sort of arrangement? It's a shaft stroking outlet of opinion pieces, designed for these types of people.
Better to wait a few years until the few remaining hits of ad revenue dry up and they disappear.
 

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It's someone writing a letter in to the Guardian actually. Not an article. It is verbatim the guys letter and that's it.
It is a fake letter. Just look at the perspective it is written from yet the tone and commentary do not match at all.

Just for the clicks.
 
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If you notice there has been a massive push by women towards polyamory etc.

Wonder why?

Who do you think benefits most from that kind of arrangement? she fires up Tinder and has 100's of matches within an hour and dudes lining up to pipe her. Even as a middle ground looks man you fire up Tinder at best will have a handful of matches.

It can backfire though if the husband is a full on deviant, while regular heterosexual dating is a bit one sided in women's favour a guy who is into trans women can apparently repeatedly score:

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The above is such a beautiful SJW dilemma, she chose to open the relationship, she's likely liberal etc.. "trans women are real women" so she should have no grounds to complain yet...

(the above might well be fake but then again Poe's Law generally applies to this stuff)
 
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It can backfire though if the husband is a full on deviant, while regular heterosexual dating is a bit one sided in women's favour a guy who is into trans women can apparently repeatedly score:

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The above is such a beautiful SJW dilemma, she chose to open the relationship, she's likely liberal etc.. "trans women are real women" so she should have no grounds to complain yet...
Lmao that has to be someone trolling?

Fairly sure reddit is just full of the dregs of society and trolls.
 
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It is a fake letter. Just look at the perspective it is written from yet the tone and commentary do not match at all.

Just for the clicks.
Honestly I think you're probably right. It's inflammatory and creates a lot of discussion so I wouldn't be surprised if it's just the idea of a writer.
 
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People should just do and accept what they feel comfortable with.

If you couldn’t accept anything other than a monogamous relationship, then that’s OK.

If you are willing to let your partner sleep around, and you are comfortable with that, then that’s also OK.

I think there is, on this issue, a huge disconnect between what people do, think and feel. I anticipate most people will do in accordance with social norms, for the rational (but unnecessary) fear of being disliked. I anticipate that most people actually feel (not something they have conscious control over) that they want to sleep with everyone on a whim, unfettered and on some sort of sexual ‘god mode’ - that’s fine, it’s human to want to be loved and accepted by all. Then, most people will think that it’s perfectly acceptable to square the circle by indulging in their sexual fantasies in their own heads and occasionally seeking a release by ‘harmlessly’ watch pornography.

Even in a monogamous relationship there is a colossal conflict of interest. Males are most successful, in the biological sense, by sleeping around with everyone and maximising the number of children. It’s theoretically possible to have thousands of children. Females are limited in their capacity to do this and maximise their success by choosing successful alpha partners that can provide and will procure ‘attractive children’. Ultimately though, men are prone to want to be more sexually active with more partners, which monogamy prevents.

You can all square the circle whichever way you wish. All that matters is that you are comfortable and that you are at peace (and frankly, being at peace, is really hard - you cannot ‘try’ for it!). However, I wouldn’t be quite so judgemental of people in open relationships if you spend your days secretly fantasying about people other than your one, monogamous partner, watching porn or otherwise.
 
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It wouldn't surprise me if it was a real letter, I've met a few couples (and triads) that are similar to this and I've listened to a few podcasts where they interview people who've been in relationships similar to this. It seems to be popular if one of the people in the couple are bi and the other isn't, they talk about it and almost arrange a free pass if the bi person wants to explore the other sex.

The dude in the letter could be perfectly happy, especially if he doesn't really have a high sex drive and sex isn't an important factor in a relationship for him. People are wired differently and monogamy just isn't for some (i'd wager most) people. Personally if a girl proposed that to me I'd laugh and leave, if he's happy so be it.
 
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Whats funny is though when you see women push for an open relationship and the guy all of sudden starts getting tail. They all of sudden do a 180 and want to be exclusive again.... funny that.

All I say to guys is don't fall for it, and don't fall for the shaming tactics of "oh you must be soooo insecure". It's such an easy way to frame it and get what they want.

If the arrangement is a good 50/50 split go ahead. But you will always notice there is a massive disparity between who benefits from the arrangement and who doesn't.

As you've written there, these situations show insecurity in herself to chase some fleeting new interest while hating the idea of their partner getting it. The desire to be the 'dominant' figure of the relationship is laughable.
 
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It wouldn't surprise me if it was a real letter, I've met a few couples (and triads) that are similar to this and I've listened to a few podcasts where they interview people who've been in relationships similar to this. It seems to be popular if one of the people in the couple are bi and the other isn't, they talk about it and almost arrange a free pass if the bi person wants to explore the other sex.

That's rather different though, a woman wanting to explore her bi side is a much less cucked scenario than the one in the OP which is literally cuckoldry and with a much younger man.

The male partner might not be so threatened by his wife playing with a girl occasionally... possibly hopeful too (though likely a bit deluded in some cases) of a threesome if the girls she meet are bisexual.
 
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