Weapons found in schools up 20%

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Saw this article. Now i dont think that weapon possessions among kids are on the rise, just that schools are quite a bit more cautious with things these days, with some of the 'worst' schools introducing metal detectors.

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Press Association analysis of data from 32 of the 43 police forces in England and Wales showed 2,579 weapons had been found in two years to March 2017.

Police chiefs said there had been a "worrying" increase in young people carrying knives.

There are about 25,850 schools in England and Wales.

Heads said children's safety was their top priority and that schools worked closely with police to protect pupils.

In 2016-17 alone, 1,369 weapons were found - a rise of almost 20% on the previous year.

A fifth of the overall incidents related to knives or swords.

Other weapons confiscated included at least 26 guns, including air guns and an imitation firearm.

More unusual seizures included a police baton, a rolling pin, a can of beer and a 15in (38cm) metal rod.

At least 47 children below the age of 10 - the age at which someone can be prosecuted - were found with weapons.

This included three five-year-olds, one of whom was caught with a knife, while another was found with a "missile" - typically a brick or a rock.

The Metropolitan Police and Greater Manchester Police were among the forces to respond to the survey.
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So last year roughly 280 knife/sword related weapons were found. Not a massive amount i admit but what shocked me is the bit about 5 year old's being found with knives on them. Kids are stupid, people are stupid but what possess a 5 year old to carry a knife around?

I remember the story in america about the very young boy who shot the neighbours daughter.

I don't think it is TV and media to blame. If young children are influenced by such things, it is the parents job to stop them watching it. It isn't hard, code lock on TV channels and child mode on tablets are easy to enforce.

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three five-year-olds, one of whom was caught with a knife, while another was found with a "missile"
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one does wonder why folk feel the need, same as the etiquette these days of going around in gangs when fighting.

whatever happened to when 2 people had a problem they went outside had a bout of fisticuffs till someone fell down then they shook hands and left?
 
I think with the 5 year old, it'll be more likely they took something to play with, rather than for a malicious reason. When I was in primary school, people were taking the cutlery from the canteen.
 
The latest trend (acid attacks) is testament to how the police are tackling knife crime...

However this needs adressing ASAP. Imo acid attacks are a lot worse than knife crime. Both from an intent stand point and potentially the lasting damage...
 
what you have to remember is we not in the 1940s anymore.

as with any reports and findings you have to take with a pinch of salt.

media is different. kids are different.life is different.kids see more violence now on tv media than ever before.so if trues its not that surprising.its not just kids though. more of us as we see more we slowly become numb to it.thing is did that kid who maybe brought in his minecraft knife or the like think about it as a weapon? also what did the teacher or whoever who found the item class it as a weapon ? could have been a butter blunt knife for all we know but it gets marked down as a knife.
 
~>Dg<~ said:
what you have to remember is we not in the 1940s anymore.

as with any reports and findings you have to take with a pinch of salt.

media is different. kids are different.life is different.kids see more violence now on tv media than ever before.so if trues its not that surprising.its not just kids though. more of us as we see more we slowly become numb to it.thing is did that kid who maybe brought in his minecraft knife or the like think about it as a weapon? also what did the teacher or whoever who found the item class it as a weapon ? could have been a butter blunt knife for all we know but it gets marked down as a knife.
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Very good point. A plastic 2cm knife could morph into a highest quality samurai sword in some peoples minds, all they hear is a 'knife'. We live in such a mollycoddled bubble at times.
 
The 5-year-old ones seem a non-issue unless they're violent individuals already in life. If it's just some kid who's brought a toy knife in and been caught with it then it seems rather weird to put it down as a statistic.

I keep wondering though whether school/college teachers should be trained in self-defence and potentially given a non-lethal weapon to respond with if things get really sketchy as we saw a few years ago in Leeds. What chance does anyone stand when a 16yr old boy starts attacking a female teacher, even without a weapon he's likely stronger than her.
 
I had a BB gun when I was 15, me and my mates used to go to these local woods and shoot at each other like a mini airsoft game, I think I may have took it into school once or twice to show people but I never shot anyone with it. A headline could read "Boy found with gun at school" if a teacher ever caught me, even though at worst it would sting if you got shot.
 
Roar87 said:
I had a BB gun when I was 15, me and my mates used to go to these local woods and shoot at each other like a mini airsoft game, I think I may have took it into school once or twice to show people but I never shot anyone with it. A headline could read "Boy found with gun at school" if a teacher ever caught me, even though at worst it would sting if you got shot.
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Haven't people sustained serious injuries with those, I'm pretty sure I read multiple headlines years ago surrounding those guns when they were popular, eye injuries spring to mind.
 
Ayahuasca said:
Haven't people sustained serious injuries with those, I'm pretty sure I read multiple headlines years ago surrounding those guns when they were popular, eye injuries spring to mind.
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The only risk is if you get shot in the eye, it's a small plastic ball bearing, you don't even feel it if it hits your clothes. Never the less I shouldn't have had it in school. As a kid though you just think that type of thing is cool, you aren't looking at it from a responsible adults point of view.
 
jsmoke said:
Very good point. A plastic 2cm knife could morph into a highest quality samurai sword in some peoples minds, all they hear is a 'knife'. We live in such a mollycoddled bubble at times.
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Given that the story is based on police reports, I don't think we're talking about 2cm plastic knives here.
 
Ayahuasca said:
Haven't people sustained serious injuries with those, I'm pretty sure I read multiple headlines years ago surrounding those guns when they were popular, eye injuries spring to mind.
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The old plastic toy ones werent that bad, whats more worrying is the trend of proper airsoft guns being toted by kids outside of an actual site, and without face protection those will break teeth and easily put an eye out.

In perspective the old plastic pos i had back in the day had an effective range of maybe 15 feet and you could get hit in the eye without damage, now try triple that easily with fully automatic fire to boot
 
balky12 said:
The latest trend (acid attacks) is testament to how the police are tackling knife crime...

However this needs adressing ASAP. Imo acid attacks are a lot worse than knife crime. Both from an intent stand point and potentially the lasting damage...
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Yeah, I've heard a lot of acid attacks more so men taking revenge on ex girlfriends/wives. Still that is quite frightening to think out there, people having access to acid who could throw it in your face then having to live with permanent blindness and/or severe disfigurement.
 
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