Website Idea?

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Kosmiche

Kosmiche

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Basically I'm studying dreamweaver part time and we have been tasked with designing a 5 page website that will show all that we have learnt.

I am struggling to think of a original website idea that is feasible for me to be able to do.

Please, help me think of a original website idea that hasn't been done before. Is this even possible?

Thanks...:)

This isn't like one of those "do the work for me" threads I'm just asking about a concept idea that is all.
 
A good start would be to create a spider diagram of everything you've learnt so far, and then for each point write down ideas for content.

Oh, and not use Dreamweaver.

Oh, and post in the correct forum :p
 
Sorry buddy but its going to be bloody hard to do something original using just dreamweaver. As suggested, think about everything you have learnt and find a website that allows you to demonstrate those skills. Don't get too hung up on how cool or original it is.

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People don't use dreamweaver as it not worth using unless you are taking advantage of its WYSIWYG layout designer and if you are using that, you shouldn't be. It creates horrible html that would not pass muster for a serious website.

All simple websites are is HTML and CSS. Neither of which require anything more than a plain text editor like notepadd++.
 
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Pick a hobby or something that interests you. Create intro to the site for the home page, three other pages and a contact us page. Sorted ;) eg.. intro to your pc... a page on components, page on peripherals, page on software why you chose them etc..

I started with Dreamweaver 2 not CS2 for the Q2 clan I was in! How long ago was that? Soon dropped it though it gets too restrictive. I haven't used any of the more modern versions but would presume that it is now at least a bit better than it was?
 
fez said:
Sorry buddy but its going to be bloody hard to do something original using just dreamweaver. As suggested, think about everything you have learnt and find a website that allows you to demonstrate those skills. Don't get too hung up on how cool or original it is.

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People don't use dreamweaver as it not worth using unless you are taking advantage of its WYSIWYG layout designer and if you are using that, you shouldn't be. It creates horrible html that would not pass muster for a serious website.

All simple websites are is HTML and CSS. Neither of which require anything more than a plain text editor like notepadd++.
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two00lbwaster said:
From my experience, designer/builders use Dreamweaver to build bad websites. Web developers use something else, like vim, :D; or something usable like Notepad++ and build beautiful websites.
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I was going to write a big reply, I'll leave that until tomorrow. First, I'd like to ask you both what the problem is with DreamWeaver? Why do people make "bad" websites with DreamWeaver?

Obviously, I know the answer to these questions but wanted to hear your opinion(s).

Thanks.
 
fez said:
Sorry buddy but its going to be bloody hard to do something original using just dreamweaver.

People don't use dreamweaver as it not worth using unless you are taking advantage of its WYSIWYG layout designer and if you are using that, you shouldn't be. It creates horrible html that would not pass muster for a serious website.
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two00lbwaster said:
From my experience, designer/builders use Dreamweaver to build bad websites.
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In my past experience of working in a web design agency, I have not found any problems with Dreamweaver. How will be "hard" to create something original?

That has to do with the skills and creativity of the user. Dreamweaver will not stop you creating something original. I have seen clean HTML using Dreamweaver. Unless you like to use all its features like library snippets.

Bad designers build bad web sites, not the tools you use.
 
djkav said:
In my past experience of working in a web design agency, I have not found any problems with Dreamweaver. How will be "hard" to create something original?

That has to do with the skills and creativity of the user. Dreamweaver will not stop you creating something original. I have seen clean HTML using Dreamweaver. Unless you like to use all its features like library snippets.

Bad designers build bad web sites, not the tools you use.
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Exactly what I was trying to say. While Dreamweaver provides the tools for creating "bad" HTML, it also provides tools for quickly creating standards-compliant code to build websites with. It's not Dreamweaver that creates bad websites, it's the uneducated designer that uses the wrong tools within the program.

I purchased the Adobe Web-Premium CS5.5 pack for students and teachers, it cost around £250-300. I don't regret it, though I don't use the other programs much to make it worth paying full price. If you're interested in creating websites as a hobby or a living, I would 100% try Dreamweaver for at least one week.

It's a stable program that has tons of tools, it certainly makes my life much easier. With a few clicks of my mouse I can place down quality code that'd take much longer to do if you were to type everything out manually.

Though if you do plan on using Dreamweaver, use code view instead of the design view as it's not trusted. Preview your work in real browsers too.

Thanks.
 
MissileMoose said:
I was going to write a big reply, I'll leave that until tomorrow. First, I'd like to ask you both what the problem is with DreamWeaver? Why do people make "bad" websites with DreamWeaver?

Obviously, I know the answer to these questions but wanted to hear your opinion(s).

Thanks.
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djkav said:
In my past experience of working in a web design agency, I have not found any problems with Dreamweaver. How will be "hard" to create something original?

That has to do with the skills and creativity of the user. Dreamweaver will not stop you creating something original. I have seen clean HTML using Dreamweaver. Unless you like to use all its features like library snippets.

Bad designers build bad web sites, not the tools you use.
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Tables templates, it costs money, unless you use it at your work. And the tool is generally indicative of the people using it.
Edit: I forgot that great gem of inline styling :)

Generally these people aren't aware of accessibility, of SEO/SEM, mobile/touch interface user experience or providing the best option for the client for example a CMS driven website rather than a static website (with content updated by themselves for a fee of course).
 
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Where does it say design something original? your spec (as far as I can see) is just to design a 5 page site? in which case, why even bother with an original idea, especially if you are not going to be carrying it forwards!
 
I have never met a decent coder or front end builder that uses Dreamweaver. If you are using it as a glorified text editor then there are better options out there. If you are using it as a wysiwyg editor to generate html, it will be rubbish html.

"Though if you do plan on using Dreamweaver, use code view instead of the design view as it's not trusted. Preview your work in real browsers too."

So use dreamweaver to write the code and then test it in a real browser. Exactly the workflow that you would use in other editors. The benefits of dreamweaver are really only there for those that are just starting their journey programming.

The web premium pack is great value for what you get but dreamweaver could be dropped from it and it would still be good value. Dreamweaver simply can't give you anything over traditional editors when it comes to building complex websites.
 
fez said:
I have never met a decent coder or front end builder that uses Dreamweaver. If you are using it as a glorified text editor then there are better options out there. If you are using it as a wysiwyg editor to generate html, it will be rubbish html.

"Though if you do plan on using Dreamweaver, use code view instead of the design view as it's not trusted. Preview your work in real browsers too."

So use dreamweaver to write the code and then test it in a real browser. Exactly the workflow that you would use in other editors. The benefits of dreamweaver are really only there for those that are just starting their journey programming.

The web premium pack is great value for what you get but dreamweaver could be dropped from it and it would still be good value. Dreamweaver simply can't give you anything over traditional editors when it comes to building complex websites.
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Thank you Fez. You put into words what I felt and couldn't. :)
 
Sherbs said:
There are just better programs out there than Dreamweaver. Coda for one.
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Really? I'm yet to find one. I use eclipse at work which just doesn't stack up for html/css work.

Coda is only available on OSX right?


I must have tried everything over the years now, and nothing stacks up to Dreamweaver. You install it, and straight away you have a decent file manager/ftp client, syntax highlighting, and css prompting. Might take 20 secs for it to open on my computer, but it just works.
 
Muel said:
I must have tried everything over the years now, and nothing stacks up to Dreamweaver. You install it, and straight away you have a decent file manager/ftp client, syntax highlighting, and css prompting. Might take 20 secs for it to open on my computer, but it just works.
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Notepad++ and WinSCP for me at work. I don't need CSS/HTML prompting ;)
 
Muel said:
Really? I'm yet to find one. I use eclipse at work which just doesn't stack up for html/css work.

Coda is only available on OSX right?


I must have tried everything over the years now, and nothing stacks up to Dreamweaver. You install it, and straight away you have a decent file manager/ftp client, syntax highlighting, and css prompting. Might take 20 secs for it to open on my computer, but it just works.
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Include the customisable working environments, which I doubt any other programs have. :cool:
 
two00lbwaster said:
Notepad++ and WinSCP for me at work. I don't need CSS/HTML prompting ;)
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Neither do I, but it still saves me time because I can never remember whether to use center or centre. (But I never forget color, bizzare).

MissileMoose said:
Include the customisable working environments, which I doubt any other programs have. :cool:
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DW is customisable? I can show and hide pretty much any panel. Difference is I don't have to install it first.
 
The poor opinion of DW is one I thought we'd moved past long ago when people stopped using the design view and started using it for it's strengths..

I use DW, it's the perfect IDE for my workflow.

Does coda have project/site management and integrated FTP? Because that's mainly why I use DW. Boot it up, all my sites have their files organised, I can sync them if I've been developing offline and don't need another program to do that. The syntax highlighting and auto completion are generally good too.

Edit: Talk about completely ignoring the thread's purpose, sorry. Are you a part of any clubs/societies/events? They usually offer quite a good avenue for personal project work.
 
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