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Sinbad2000

Sinbad2000

Sinbad2000

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Now that the NHS has approved this for people with weight related health problems - does anyone know how to actually get into the program?
My GP has been spectacularly useless. I called them to ask about it, they'd never heard of it... then they did some research and came back saying they didn't prescribe it. They then redirected me to some other weight loss program thing, which when I registered, informed me that I lived in the wrong area for them and I need to go elsewhere - and all of that was just talking/support groups etc. I need the drugs, man!

arggh!
 
jpaul said:
was this the drug Boris was raving about ? - hadn't read his article, but, the results don't look promising.
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I know a couple of people on it and it's cut their cravings/appetite dramatically, which is what I need. I can lose weight by cutting out carbs but the problem is I'm some kind of carb addict and it's _really_ easy to fall off that wagon, even unknowingly and it's an absolute biyatch to get past the cravings that get reignited when that happens.
 
Chuk_Chuk said:
I think you need to get a referral to the weight loss clinic and from there, they may be able to prescribe it to. Also it is more commonly known as semaglutide, that might help with the familiarity when speaking to doctors.

Do note, if you do not exercise while using this, you will actually be losing muscle mass rather than fat. Which is not desirable.


Regarding the discussion you are having with @Malevolence about drugs vs controlling your eating. One thing to note is that there can be an emotional component to eating and cravings. As an example, when I am stressed, I crave and desire pastries (at one point it was cheeseburgers from McD). I do not know you, or what your life is like. It is just information for you to be aware of.

I wish you all the best.
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Thank you, both for the weight loss clinic info and for the other info and support.
 
n111ck said:
Can be easily sourced via a private prescription (Ozempic) if you are willing to pay - most of the news sites a few months back had articles superficially appearing to condemn how easy it is to get hold of whilst also explaining in detail how to get it lol.
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As I understand it, ozempic is a much lower dose than wegovy (0.5 vs 2.5mg), ozempic is indicated for diabetes control and is used off-label for weight loss by people who can't get the wegovy (which is indicated for weight loss).
 
brightside229 said:
I will have to remember that when i fill up my car with petrol. last time i checked moving more burned more fuel, going faster burned more fuel etc, if my car was sat on the drive not moving with a constant supply of fuel my tank would overflow.....

The above works exactly the same for a human too... it really is not rocket science.

Sure some cars get better mpg than others, just the same as some humans burn less/more calories but in that case you calculate what you need and eat less/more to suit your BMR
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So your car will get EXACTLY the same consumption regardless of conditions, or flat tyres, or driving uphill, or a tailwind?

It really isn't that simple, honest. There's hormones involved, and differing metabolic pathways. There's no simple combustion system in your stomach that converts x amount of food into x amount of muscle/brain fuel at a standard conversion rate.
 
brightside229 said:
the only time it become complicated is when people make it complicated.

Sure you may go up 1-2 pound a week or down 1-2 a week. if you are consistantly gaining 2 pounds a week you know you are eating too much, you know what you ate the previous week, you can either A) bury your head in the sand and continue or B) eat less the following weeks until you are either staying the same weight or losing weight depending on your goal
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OK then
 
malachi said:
No, the tax payer foots the bill. Which has an knock on effect to everyone else.

Being overweight is caused by laziness and lack of discipline. Giving lazy people free stuff or vouchers doesn't all of a sudden make them no longer lazy. It actually encourages them to continue living an unhealthy lifestyle because they never work for it.
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Would it make a difference to this conversation if I pointed out that I was a tax payer? :p
 
malachi said:
Those £2 chicken and chip shops. That's how.
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"cheaper" food is mainly carbohydrate based - starchy fillers, bread, potatoes etc.
For someone who's already overweight, that stuff is like fat bombs. Spike the blood sugar, stimulate insulin which then pushes the liver to convert glucose to triglycerides, and stimulates fat cells to store triglyceride... Then blood sugar starts dropping, and guess what, you're hungry again and that energy that was stored as fat isn't available to you until a different metabolic pathway opens (glucagon is involved). And that doesn't open quickly ...
 
fez said:
This is unfortunately the justification a lot of people like to use for abusing things like the NHS. "I paid taxes all my life". Yes you did Steve and by the age of 45 every single penny of your entire working life worth of taxes was spent on your constant use of the NHS for the plethora of easily preventable health issues you have.
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Hey who told you my name?! :D
 
Efour said:
Steve Sinbad... Like Steven Segal but cooler id say.. :p
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