Weight training methods - opinions?

Liverpool-Lad · 30 Dec 2007 at 19:22

Are they those stupid implants he had? They look awful. I think youd struggle with 60kg on a straight armed curl done properly.

MrSix · 30 Dec 2007 at 19:51

Yeah, I'm quite dubious as to some of the weights being batted around here....

110kg bicep curl...

...done like that, I would actually eat my own sweatty gym knickers if you can do that (and prove it).

SK07 · 30 Dec 2007 at 22:42

^I do 60KG 5x5. How many reps? I've never tried it but doubt I'll get very far lmao but I'll give 70KG a bash for 1 rep max, if I can manage I'll go up another 5 and see where I get.

A2Z · 30 Dec 2007 at 22:56

SK07 said:
^I do 60KG 5x5

why did you say 110kg then? :confused:

SK07 · 30 Dec 2007 at 22:57

A2Z said:
why did you say 110kg then?

.... was a joke...... some people fail to see sarcasm, are you sure anyone can do a straight arm 110kg bicep curl as in with one hand?

oddjob62 · 30 Dec 2007 at 23:29

I'm still trying to work out how you do a bicep curl while keeping your arm straight :confused:

hittman · 30 Dec 2007 at 23:29

SK07 said:
.... was a joke...... some people fail to see sarcasm, are you sure anyone can do a straight arm 110kg bicep curl as in with one hand?

There is sarcasm and there is a lie. Sarcasm does not work well online.

Liverpool-Lad · 31 Dec 2007 at 00:53

SK07 said:
^I do 60KG 5x5. How many reps? I've never tried it but doubt I'll get very far lmao but I'll give 70KG a bash for 1 rep max, if I can manage I'll go up another 5 and see where I get.

Hang on, I thought we were talking about 1 arm here, not with a barbell.

Chong Warrior · 31 Dec 2007 at 01:21

SK07 said:
^I do 60KG 5x5. How many reps? I've never tried it but doubt I'll get very far lmao but I'll give 70KG a bash for 1 rep max, if I can manage I'll go up another 5 and see where I get.

Is it just me or does that post not make sense?

You say you do 60kg 5x5 right? That's 60kg for 5 sets of 5 reps.

Yet you then say you have no idea how many reps... :confused:

If you can do 60kg 5x5 you'll easily manage 70kg for reps.

MrSix · 31 Dec 2007 at 08:53

Chong Warrior said:
Is it just me or does that post not make sense?

You say you do 60kg 5x5 right? That's 60kg for 5 sets of 5 reps.

Yet you then say you have no idea how many reps... If you can do 60kg 5x5 you'll easily manage 70kg for reps.

I agree.

For the sake of my thread I think it would be better for SK07 to take his personal goals elsewhere so we can get back on topic please.

Just to reiterate what I said before:

MrSix said:
With the multitude of different ways to actually "do" weights, I was wondering what you guys found most effective?

I've tried a few different methods and I'm still at a loss as to which works best for me...

1) Lifting in sets of 10, 10, 8, 6 - where the weight is increased as the reps are decreased. This is the first method I ever used, but I got to thinking that perhaps I was restricting the number of reps I could potentially do on the heaviest weight because I was already fatigued by the first "lighter" reps...

Does anybody know the pros and cons of training like this?

2) Lifting in straight sets such as 8, 8, 8 with a consistent weight. So if I was benching 70kg, I would keep that weight for all three sets.

Once again, pros and cons please?

3) Drop-sets. Lifting as much as I can on a selected 'heavy' weight (I normally pick something I can 'just' manage 6 reps with). Once I can't lift any more, immediately drop it and move on to a lower weight until eventually you're lifting either an empty bar or the lowest weight available. Once you're through, rest until your heart rate returns to normal and repeat another 2 times.

Guess what.....? Pros and cons please

That's basically the three methods I've toyed with over the past year or so and I'm sure there are more, so if anybody has any advice that will help me build muscle mass then I would be very grateful.

Cheers.

Morba · 4 Jan 2008 at 09:03

SK07 said:
60KG on bicep curl,

60kg for reps @ 13.5 stone?
get a vid taken with form and post it on youtube, you will get many good comments i am sure.

Morba · 4 Jan 2008 at 09:06

MrSix said:
Just to reiterate what I said before:

All are good, its not just about the pro's and con's, its about what is right for you, what you respond to most.

personally i wouldnt do all drop sets all the time, instead i would use them occasionally in the last set of an exercise. when i do them, i drop in either 25% or 33% steps (depending on what weights are available to use).

supersets are also fantastic, using any of the formats, or even tri sets if you are up to it.

Styles · 4 Jan 2008 at 10:18

The key is to vary it up, mix things around. Drop sets, supersets etc are all advanced techniques and should be used sparingly.

You need to stick to the basics, heavy weights and 8-12 reps for sets. Stick with compound movements and lift 3 times a week. One day on, one day off. That would be my advice.

Morba · 4 Jan 2008 at 10:31

Styles said:
The key is to vary it up, mix things around. Drop sets, supersets etc are all advanced techniques and should be used sparingly.

You need to stick to the basics, heavy weights and 8-12 reps for sets. Stick with compound movements and lift 3 times a week. One day on, one day off. That would be my advice.

indeed, from that you will start to learn what your body responds to best.
Also worth remembering that what works best today might not be the best thing in 3/6 months, your body will get used to doing the same things over time :]