weird traffic shaping, how to get rid of it?

mark2410 · 19 Sep 2016 at 21:59

so ive been having a bit of trouble. for some reason this computer appears to be traffic shaping. most specifically whin a try an upload thinngs to google drive it goes slow as hell, for no reason that i can see. whats more i know its not my isp because if i do the same thing on my media computer it goes much much faster. the problem therfore seem to be this computer.

i have tried multiple browsers, google drive directly and all are the same so i think it must be my network card doing it but i cant see why.

any ideas? this is driving me mad.

Orcvader · 19 Sep 2016 at 22:06

Looking at your motherboard, it has something called Network iControl? Tried uninstalling that if you have that installed?

mark2410 · 19 Sep 2016 at 22:21

it has, it was disabled i think but anyway to get rid of it without taking the whole AS suite with it?

mark2410 · 20 Sep 2016 at 11:47

so thats now gone but nope, no change. its still uploading waaaaaay slower than my media box.

Orcvader · 20 Sep 2016 at 14:12

Go to network settings, and check what the sync speed between your PC and router is. Is the media PC syncing at the same/higher speed? I assume both are wired?

mark2410 · 20 Sep 2016 at 14:27

Orcvader said:
Go to network settings, and check what the sync speed between your PC and router is. Is the media PC syncing at the same/higher speed? I assume both are wired?

correct, both are wired, both 1gb connections and a can move data between the computers at hundreds of mbits so there isnt any problem there.

i should probably also note that if i run a speedtest i get this

so the connection is fine but if i upload thins to google drive its back to really slow, on this computer.

Ricimer · 23 Sep 2016 at 23:20

This will happen when your upload is maxed, because you can't send ACK packets back for the traffic coming down.

This isn't traffic shaping, that's what you use to solve this situation! I'm using pfsense priority queues and Windows QoS tagging for this because I'm stuck on a 4Mb/0.8Mb link and I need to leave crashplan running continuously to get any data uploaded.

mark2410 · 23 Sep 2016 at 23:45

Ricimer said:
This will happen when your upload is maxed, because you can't send ACK packets back for the traffic coming down.

This isn't traffic shaping, that's what you use to solve this situation! I'm using pfsense priority queues and Windows QoS tagging for this because I'm stuck on a 4Mb/0.8Mb link and I need to leave crashplan running continuously to get any data uploaded.

erm perhaps im misunderstanding you but no, the download is fine its the upload that sucks. specificaly with uploading to google drive, on any browser. yet the same thing on a different computer on my network and the upload runs 10 to 20 times faster.

its not that the connection is being saturated.

Ricimer · 24 Sep 2016 at 00:18

mark2410 said:
erm perhaps im misunderstanding you but no, the download is fine its the upload that sucks. specificaly with uploading to google drive, on any browser. yet the same thing on a different computer on my network and the upload runs 10 to 20 times faster.

its not that the connection is being saturated.

Ah, ok. I guess I read the post the wrong way, I just assumed it was the internet in general that was slow rather than uploading.

Assuming that the speed test is from the machine? Is uploading ok to other places or is it just google drive that is slow? Is is any better if you create a new user account on the machine to rule out browser cache/settings issues?

Ricimer · 24 Sep 2016 at 00:26

Hmm, http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/312236-30-beware-asus-network-icontrol-kill-upload-speeds

I'd still blame icontrol, although you said it's uninstalled, someone mentioned it having a scheduled task at one point in the thread.

Have you tried the standard realtek drivers?

mark2410 · 24 Sep 2016 at 00:39

Ricimer said:
Ah, ok. I guess I read the post the wrong way, I just assumed it was the internet in general that was slow rather than uploading.

Assuming that the speed test is from the machine? Is uploading ok to other places or is it just google drive that is slow? Is is any better if you create a new user account on the machine to rule out browser cache/settings issues?

Ricimer said:
Hmm, http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/312236-30-beware-asus-network-icontrol-kill-upload-speeds

I'd still blame icontrol, is it uninstalled? And have you tried the standard realtek drivers?

removed network i control thing. still the same.

the drivers in use are ones i got directly from realtek so id like to think there should be no playing about with them.

yes that speed test was done on this machine so atm it specificaly seems that its uploading to google drive that is slow on this machine. ive not noticed this behaviour on anything else. it hapens in multiple browsers and even using the google drive app. thats why im thinking its some traffic shaping thing but ive no clue what could be interfering.

mark2410 · 24 Sep 2016 at 00:43

okay just tried drop box. in a bwrowser just under 2mbit up. dropbox folder about 6. so it seems somewhat affected too

Ricimer · 24 Sep 2016 at 01:01

Have you tried with high performance power plan? if only to rule out pci-e power saving settings. Antivirus might also be involved if it's filtering ssl

mark2410 · 24 Sep 2016 at 04:48

Ricimer said:
Have you tried with high performance power plan? if only to rule out pci-e power saving settings. Antivirus might also be involved if it's filtering ssl

well im going to assume that its not pcie power saving as its not general connection issues, for example the speedtests upload fine. it seems to be specific services only that are affected.