As an employee, that's a crock of crap. You employ me to work at 'x' office. The Company is relocating. If you want to keep me, you need to reduce my losses due to extra time and cost of getting to and from work, because of the move The Company is doing. It is/was not my choice to move, so why should I foot the bill?
What are my rights when my company relocates ?
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So if I move nearer your house can I pay you less?
If we moved offices 6 miles and someone came in to see me and said it was going to cause them hardship and they'd been here a while I'd have a good chat with them about their finances as to why 6 miles, or 12 a day makes a bige difference in their pocket. If something came out of that, eg struggling with debts, family life etc then I'd see what I could do to make life easier in general for them - we can be very generous when its appropriate. If someone came in who had been working for me for a month said he was going to struggle because he runs a performance car and can he have more money to cover it I'd say not a chance in hell. If they decided to leave because of it then fair enough.
If we relocated 30 miles or so then I'd re-evaluate it.
If we moved offices 6 miles and someone came in to see me and said it was going to cause them hardship and they'd been here a while I'd have a good chat with them about their finances as to why 6 miles, or 12 a day makes a bige difference in their pocket. If something came out of that, eg struggling with debts, family life etc then I'd see what I could do to make life easier in general for them - we can be very generous when its appropriate. If someone came in who had been working for me for a month said he was going to struggle because he runs a performance car and can he have more money to cover it I'd say not a chance in hell. If they decided to leave because of it then fair enough.
If we relocated 30 miles or so then I'd re-evaluate it.
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When we moved office in my last job we were all given the extra mileage each day at the normal business mileage. However we do have to claim this with our standard mileage which is a pain, it will stop after 3 years though.
It's your decision to have a "decent car" though, not your employers fault that it costs so much to run so I'd be surprised if they offered to pay anything over the standard amount unless you're a VERY good member of staff. If it's local authority or NHS you'll almost certainly get told it's standard mileage or nothing.
It's your decision to have a "decent car" though, not your employers fault that it costs so much to run so I'd be surprised if they offered to pay anything over the standard amount unless you're a VERY good member of staff. If it's local authority or NHS you'll almost certainly get told it's standard mileage or nothing.
If my company moved sites (0% chance of happening) then I would expect to be compensated if it required I dirve further to get there. You take a job and know roughly how much it will cost and how long it will take to get there. If suddenly without your prior knowledge work relocates you costing you an extra £x in fuel and y hours in travel then I would be expected to be compensated for both at the standard milage rate for private cars on company business for the balance and also my hourly rate for the extra time taken at least for a reasonable period of time.
If the company happens to move closer to your house then great. if you had no choice in the location then you should not have a pay reduction.
A company that refuses to pay like several people above suggest they should is taking the pee.
If the company happens to move closer to your house then great. if you had no choice in the location then you should not have a pay reduction.
A company that refuses to pay like several people above suggest they should is taking the pee.
I do see where your coming from but asking for it after 1 month is a big no no in my opinion. If you are offered it then great, but making it a big issue when you are in a probabtion stage isn't the best idea.
It takes me 45 mins to do my 14 mile journey every day.. And thats on a good day!
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To be honest you knew your car had good (nee great) performance at the cost of fuel economy. It's only an extra six miles so is within a reasonable distance so you may have to take the extra cost on the chin.
Surely if you can afford an S3 the extra cost is no big deal? I understand your beef but I don't think the law says they have to do anything about it.
Surely if you can afford an S3 the extra cost is no big deal? I understand your beef but I don't think the law says they have to do anything about it.
I was hired as permenant employee, no probation about 7 months before I actually started. If within the first week I was asked to go to somewhere miles further than I anticipated working I would still expect compensation
He knew what his costs would be and now without any say they have been changed. Some people give up certain things so they can have other things, he has chosen an S3 and accepts it will cost a certain amount to run. If the company doesnt want to pay him for the extra fuel at 25 mpg then they should offer recompense at say 30-35 mpg, but they should make an effort to cover his fuel and his lost time to travelling, either by cash or a shorter day
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Yes, but the op asked if it was legal. I think they do not HAVE to give you anything, they may be nice enough to. The distance is not massive and so they may feel it does not require anything in which case you have the option of staying or leaving.
Expect but that doesn't mean you're going to get it, likewise your idea of being paid extra pay for the extra time spent traveling is laughable. That's not the way it works, they might compensate for cost of the journey but it's your responsibility to be at your work on time.
Yes and any decent company would allow you to expense it without you having to suggest it. However, making a big song and dance over 12 miles per day isn't really worth giving them an excuse not to keep you on after your probabtion period.
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Especially if he has a mortgage. We have between us a large amount of disposable income and I'd not think about owning an S3. Hell the running costs of a couple of year old Astra SRI diesel annoys us both.
I'd dread to think what the running costs of an S3 would be. Car loan, insurance, maintenance, tax and so on. Given the current climate I'd rather have something a hell of a lot cheaper to run
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I budgeted a certain amount per month to buy a nice house, and I did have to give up initially on some other things I wanted in life. The current climate has seen my mortgage costs spiral* - should I ask for compensation from the Bank of England? No, I knew the costs would be variable and budgeted so.
If fuel goes up should the OP ask for compensation for this rise**? Nope, he should have budgeted for variable expenses.
The point I am trying to make here is that costs rise and external forces cannot (always) be held accountable. Sure if the company moved an unreasonable distance away then relocation expenses should be on the cards but for six miles?
* Thankfully I have good financial sense and budgeted for such rises, unlike some of the crazy borrow 5-6-or more what you earn idots who now can't afford the mortgage as they don't understand basic economics.
** Fuel prices are too high, i agree with that but if you buy a powerful car you should at least plan for the increase in the cost of fuel. Just like the above point you must budget for increased running costs and if you can easily swallow these then maybe a different car should be purchased.
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OK then lets assume that its 80 miles further away, now what do you all think ?
Tough **** we moved deal with it doesnt really work does it.
It is the principle that I am discussing. If it only 12 miles travel and only 20 mins/day extra then they should have problem covering the small increase in costs
Tough **** we moved deal with it doesnt really work does it.
It is the principle that I am discussing. If it only 12 miles travel and only 20 mins/day extra then they should have problem covering the small increase in costs
I don't think there is a legal definition of reasonable distance, but there have been a couple of tribunals. with varying results.
Personally I'd just get on with it - your employer isn't moving far, and it is your choice to drive such an uneconomical car. If they moved a 80 miles away you might have grounds to complain or seek compensation.
Personally I'd just get on with it - your employer isn't moving far, and it is your choice to drive such an uneconomical car. If they moved a 80 miles away you might have grounds to complain or seek compensation.
the op should realize that if he has only been with a company a month and now starts whining that he has a extra 6 miles to drive he's not gonna last very long with that job.
just speaking from experience... managers / directors like workers who get on with the job (even if it is a whole 6 miles further) and don't whine constantly about anything they don't like
not having a go here, just what I have noticed from last 20 odd years errr working
even if you do have rights,. to call in on them and start quoting them will lead to you finding another job.
just speaking from experience... managers / directors like workers who get on with the job (even if it is a whole 6 miles further) and don't whine constantly about anything they don't like
not having a go here, just what I have noticed from last 20 odd years errr working
even if you do have rights,. to call in on them and start quoting them will lead to you finding another job.
He's a month in, thus a temporary contract and could be dismissed without much issue.
I'd suggest the outcome will be live with it, tho if they are kind they may contribute - but then you may be open to tax implications. If the commute is not part of your salaried work (ie field based) then its your concern how to get there really...
if it were further they would offer permanent staff relocation assistance, if it wasnt deemed enough by the staff then they would be able to dismiss and reemploy (i think)
I'd suggest the outcome will be live with it, tho if they are kind they may contribute - but then you may be open to tax implications. If the commute is not part of your salaried work (ie field based) then its your concern how to get there really...
if it were further they would offer permanent staff relocation assistance, if it wasnt deemed enough by the staff then they would be able to dismiss and reemploy (i think)
the op should realize that if he has only been with a company a month and now starts whining that he has a extra 6 miles to drive he's not gonna last very long with that job.
just speaking from experience... managers / directors like workers who get on with the job (even if it is a whole 6 miles further) and don't whine constantly about anything they don't like
not having a go here, just what I have noticed from last 20 odd years errr working
even if you do have rights,. to call in on them and start quoting them will lead to you finding another job.
Exactly, you summed it up better than I did.
If the OP was going to be compensated for this then i'm sure he would have heard about it by now and it would have been offered to him.