What are your 'Asus 980 Ti' ASIC values?

[PaulyP]

Hi,

If you have a factory overclocked Asus 980 Ti OC Strix - can you please post your asic values.

If you have the non overclocked version (Asus 980 Ti Strix) - can you please post your asic values as well.

I'd like to see if there is much difference... ie - Asus picking only the better chips for the more expensive card.

I don't know which to buy as the factory oc version is £70 (£530 vs £600) more expensive but the cheaper version could clock to the same level with a decent asic value.

Thanks.

 

[Gerard]

Factory oc card 68.2.

 

[Twirlywoos]

Why do you asic?

Because if higher ASIC means higher overclocks then this has been proven over and over again being rubbish.

 

[PaulyP]

It has? I am aware that even with low asic you can still overclock it well but are you saying that someone with 60 can overclock as high as someone with 85?

And if the cheaper card will overclock exactly the same as the factory over clock - what's the point in paying £70 more... or am I missing something else? Is warranty a factor when overclocking for instance?

 

[Aretak]

And if the cheaper card will overclock exactly the same as the factory over clock - what's the point in paying £70 more... or am I missing something else? Is warranty a factor when overclocking for instance?

Factory overclocks are an idiot tax for the most part. Lots of manufacturers put out the exact same card with a different BIOS with a miniscule overclock and charge more. In reality, no non-"OC" model is going to stop short of that tiny overclock when you bump it up manually (or just flash the "OC" BIOS onto it), unless you lose the silicon lottery in truly spectacular fashion (which is hugely unlikely, but possible, as I had a 960 myself earlier this year that wouldn't even do +10MHz without instability).

Of course, there are some cards and manufacturers where that's not the case as well, and the higher-clocked card will have a beefier PCB or improved cooling or a backplate to go with its price bump. And in very rare cases you'll have a manufacturer actually binning chips for their more expensive models, like Gigabyte do with their G1 cards. Generally that's saved for the super duper premium models like EVGA's Kingpin though.

Basically, do your research before buying and find out whether you're getting more than a different BIOS for your money. Overclocking yourself won't void your warranty unless you start modifying the BIOS to bypass voltage limits and such. Most companies, including ASUS, maintain their own official overclocking program (although most people just use Afterburner anyway).

/edit/ And as for ASIC quality, don't worry about it. At best it determines whether you might need a little more voltage to achieve a certain overclock, but even that's inconsistent. Your overclock will be 99% determined by your core. The 960 I previously mentioned had a decent ASIC in the mid-70s and it didn't help it one bit, because the core was a complete dud.

 

[Kaapstad]

OP if you are in the market for a 980 Ti buy one with the cooler that meets your criteria.

Let the ASIC value sort it's self out. Most 980 Ti's are good overclockers and it is only if you are looking for a tiny bit of extra performance that a high ASIC may help and even then it will cost you a lot of money for very little performance increase.

It is far better to have a card that runs cool and quiet than one that will give you 2% or 3% extra performance.

 

[Avenged7Fold]

Priority when choosing cards of the same model:

1.Cooler (limits oc, controls noise and often determines length differences between cards)
2.Memory brand (because some score better than others and Sammys are sweet)
3.Warranty
4.Price
5.Factory clock
6...

Etc

77. Brand because apart from warranty, brand doesn't make a difference. They dont really even make their own coolers and circuit board special features only make a difference when under ln2
78. ASIC value because all the other kids said more is better and there is also no way to determine which cards will have a higher asic.

Binned chips are normally on super expensive models and since the factory OC isnt that special, they are not always faster and often just on par with the standard models. If you want the extra grunt so bad put that extra £xx toward the next upgrade or Xfire/SLI because spending a £70 premium on 'binned' chips is only really worth it if you want the 'prestige' of the top model or are going for below ambient cooling clocks cause if you spend that much money and effort into cooling, it would be silly not to spend extra on the chips.

 

[Ayahuasca]

I think ASIC actually matters for some cards when it comes to overclocking, over in the Titan X thread on overclock.net there's definitely a consistency of lower ASIC cards not being able to achieve 1500mhz stable even with max voltage custom bios, whereas almost all of the 75+ ASIC cards can. There must be something in it as those kingpin cards are binned purely on ASIC %. I wouldn't pay the massively increased cost though for a few more % ASIC, I can live without an extra 50mhz lol

 

[Kaapstad]

I think ASIC actually matters for some cards when it comes to overclocking, over in the Titan X thread on overclock.net there's definitely a consistency of lower ASIC cards not being able to achieve 1500mhz stable even with max voltage custom bios, whereas almost all of the 75+ ASIC cards can. There must be something in it as those kingpin cards are binned purely on ASIC %. I wouldn't pay the massively increased cost though for a few more % ASIC, I can live without an extra 50mhz lol

High ASIC seems to be a double edged sword.

On stock volts they do tend to clock and boost higher.

Unfortunately they are also less tolerant to using extra volts for a high OC.

The difference between different ASIC cards is small though but they arrive there by different routes.

 

[zola25]

ASIC quality is 75% on my 980Ti Strix. Boosts to 1404MHz under most conditions.

 

[Cooper]

My two 970's have ASIC ratings of 75% (Samsung) & 66% (Hynix) and it makes bugger all difference to them both running at 1480mhz boost with fans at 60%, keeping temps below 70c, so neither card ever throttles down.

The only visible difference in Riva Tuner is that it shows the card with a lower ASIC rating, using about 15% more TDP.

 

[PaulyP]

Thanks for all the feedback guys.

The factory overclock though isn't just a few MHz giving 5% difference. Its a 200Mhz overclock on the memory and about 20% better benchmarks which is a significant jump. While not important now it could be in 3 years time. That being said, I think I'll try for the standard model rather than the factory overclocked. As most of you seem to suggest I should be able to overclock to the same anyway unless it's a crap chip... will just keep my fingers crossed. I really don't like the thought of paying £70 extra for something I can do my self in a few minutes.