What car to buy for use in the snow thread

I love the old Panda, but it's attained almost classic status now, they're getting expensive. The latest version of the new Panda works well in snow too, but it's a new car, and as such is fail.

I meant the new ones really. They do a 4WD one don't they? The 2WD's are quite highly regarded at least, brilliant at their job!

And what I've seen of the 4WD one, they're actually pretty fun off road due to the short wheelbase and the proximity of the wheels to the front/back of the car. Although ground clearance isn't really relevant to snow driving I guess. :D

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I'd probably get myself a Mk2/Mk2.5 Shogun, with the 3.5 V6 petrol, and a manual gearbox.

Lift the body/suspension by a load, fit some all terrain tyres etc.
 
Hummer H3's are basically are just tarted up Chevy Trailblazers aren't they? And no-one outside the US, ever in human history, has ever said they'd like a Trailblazer :P
 
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For some reason I feel that should be owned by someone from Right Said Fred.

Bald, gay and a tendancy to wear white vests in all weather.



This spot on what I want but the price is too high.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=110480889347&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT

This is also very nice but its a diesel and although I'm not too fussed on which engine I don't want to shell out £1000 when the head gasket fails (which, I'm told, WILL happen)

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/1433655.htm
 
The diesel is OK - but very sensitive to coolant levels and quality - hence the number of problems with them, as they just get run into the ground and abused with improper maintainence. Take care with it and it'll be OK, however (like most things). You do also get stuck with a fairly basic manual transmission then, and not the excellent AW4 autobox - as the diesel is only available in manual form.

They do have 4 cylinder heads too, so the moment you have a problem it gets expensive and time consuming to fix - and they're rarely right again. They are also quite agricultural, not particularly economical and get quite hot quite quickly when under heavy load (i.e. off-roading) - so the 4.0 is the one to have! :D

The first one you link to is lovely - but you can get a really nice one for a lot less than that (however, the multipoint LPG is an excellent thing to have) but you will have to dig for a while - i.e. I saw a similar year, similar spec (but fully bodycoloured) for 2k.....No LPG mind!

Another pic of mine out in MK:

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something with massive off road/snow tyres

probably something along the lines of an older toyota Amazon! theyre amazing off road
 
Look, Lashout, PLEASE stop post pictures of your cars - I'm already jealous enough as it is :p I was looking at Supra's when you picked up yours, and I'm still quite jealous :p
 

I've pretty much ruled out the diesel. I'd rather the petrol TBH.

For the amount of money I lost on the last Impreza I could have had LPG fitted to my previous Jeep and been more than happy. There is LPG easily available here and a good conversion is 1500 to 2000. To pay for it yourself, you'd need to keep the Jeep forever to make it back because LPG is 2/3 the price of petrol so really only works out at about 30-35mpg combined (Wife got indicated 26 on a run once!!)

The bay seller is trying to palm the cost of the LPG onto the new owner. As much as I would like I just can't bring myself to pay that sort of money for one. Seems from the questions asked though that someone is prepared to give him £3K. I could, but I wouldn't want to.
 
Don't forget a modern multipoint system is much more efficient than a mixer system, so there is a potential further increase in economy there...

Easily built up with 2nd hand bits now as well, as there's so much kit around! :) You can get a good tank for about 70, vaporiser for 50, and so on.......

I'm looking at ways of making mine a bit more streetable - I know a smooth intake pipe adds a guaranteed 1-2mpg, more like 3 if used in conjunction with something like an AEM or ITG filter and a few other tweaks - another 1/2 with a Firepower ignition kit and new plugs!

Quite a large potential for decrease in mpg if you drop it a bit too - a 20mm drop can give something like an 8% increase in economy, even more so if you install a deeper front airdam! A cat-back exhaust system gives an extra 10% too.....So for not a fantastic amount of outlay you can get a considerable increase in mileage :)

All food for thought :D

Was reading JP magazine articles earlier - they had a bone stock 4.0 with a 505 turbo kit on it making 350BHP and 400ft.lb - and then they built it into a 5.0 stroker and it made 692hp and 777ft.lb :o :D
 
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