Poll: What Class are You ?

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What class are you?

  • Working Class

    Votes: 129 26.4%
  • White Collar Middle Class

    Votes: 218 44.7%
  • Upper Class

    Votes: 29 5.9%
  • A Class Of Its Own

    Votes: 112 23.0%

  • Total voters
    488
[TW]Fox;14190249 said:
In what way is a VW Passat 'good for the environment'?
Reliable, efficient.
And if we're honest, rich people tend to drive ****-mobiles (pointlessly big cars, 4x4's that have never seen a tree and wouldn't work if they did etc.

So it's better than most things, especially if he does a lot of mileage, a small engined hatchback is a false economy in that case if you ask me, work the engine hard, more things are going to break faster, parts need to be made = not great for the environment.
 
Reliable, efficient.
And if we're honest, rich people tend to drive ****-mobiles (pointlessly big cars, 4x4's that have never seen a tree and wouldn't work if they did etc.

So it's better than most things, especially if he does a lot of mileage, a small engined hatchback is a false economy in that case if you ask me, work the engine hard, more things are going to break faster, parts need to be made = not great for the environment.

Oh that is such a crap generalisation. You don't even deserve a reply.
 
Reliable, efficient.
And if we're honest, rich people tend to drive ****-mobiles (pointlessly big cars, 4x4's that have never seen a tree and wouldn't work if they did etc.

So it's better than most things, especially if he does a lot of mileage, a small engined hatchback is a false economy in that case if you ask me, work the engine hard, more things are going to break faster, parts need to be made = not great for the environment.

lol
 
I wouldn't go as far as to say Ireland doesn't have caste systems, it does however it is a far cry from Britain. Interesting to read such matters being discussed so bluntly, I don't know where I would fit in to the classes mentioned by the OP but I would imagine white collar even though I'm a student.

Regarding class in Ireland the lines are much more blurry to the extent it would be difficult to tell from person to person while in England it becomes obvious after a five minute conversation. *Generally speaking of course.

Many people don't like to talk about classes, often naively hoping that if it isn't discussed it doesn't exist. To be fair though what they are afraid of is that its one step away from saying one person is better than another. A valid concern albeit a little misguided. Although I'm assuming that you all agree this isn't the case.

How is a driving a van skilled work?
I remember thinking the same but one of my professors in uni explained that it was. The skill being that you need a drivers license for the van. Unskilled work is literally work you could give to any able bodied person. e.g. fresh immigrants with little English.
 
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Proper Classes (should anyone be intrested)
Bear in mind that this is only a ROUGH guide, not a definitive one. For example, taste in fashion and leisure pursuits come into it quite a lot but are not mentioned. (You'll notice how money is absent).

Under Class: Unemployed, benefit scrounging tower block etc.

Traditional Working Class: Low or no education, factory worker, manual labour etc.

Skilled Working Class: Builder, Plumber, white van man etc

Lower Middle Class: Educated but not to university standard, speak in regional accents, live in average suburb, do a semi-skilled job.

Middle-Middle Class: Possibly university educated, but probably not from an educated background, own their own small companies or are lower-middle management in a large company. Live in decent suburbs.

Upper-Middle Class: Parents probably educated to a good standard, probably attended a good grammar or private school (in the English sense), not necessarily of upper-middle origins. Might speak in a mixture of accents. Successful business owners, higher level management etc.

^^^These two classes get blurred job wise VVVV


Lower-Upper Class: Come from an educated background, probably educated to University level if not higher, probably attended public school (in the English sense public school), traditionally speak in received pronunciation, Doctor, Lawyer, Army Officer, Academics etc

Upper-Class: Not necessarily titled but probably. Attended a good public school (English Definition), as did rest of the family. May not own an estate but probably have at one point in their family's past. Everything from Landowners, to MP's, to Army, to Priests.



Too many classes: traditionally it's:

Lower
Lower-middle
Middle
Upper-middle
Upper.

Upper is easy - you must have a title. No title, then not Upper.

There's also no such thing as "under-class" - that's an expression used by lower/working class people in an attempt to distance themselves from their scummier class members. Sorry guys, they're with you.

Skilled lower class is actually the same as lower-middle class.

And in all cases it's about 80% the job you do, 10% your education, and 10% your parents jobs.



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I would put more emphasis on the parents, as your parents determine a lot of your options.

its easier for an upper class child to get an upper class education, to get an upper class job, etc, etc.
 
Haven't read the thread, but, as I guess a lot of people are now, I currently play a death knight...

On a serious note, middle class.
 
It's been an interesting thread/read for me, Thanks to everybody for contributing. :cool:
 
I am in class:

1 - renting
2 - white collar office job
3 - current contract has me at >£100k a year

hmm
 
i dont understand the stipulation of a car under 3 years old.
there are loads of cars older than 3 years that still cost more than some brand new cars.
 
Hi there,



But I lived with my mother (and only visited my father one day a week), so I lived on a council estate being brought up by a single parent claiming benefits to survive ;s. I can't see how that's a middle class existence, tbh.

Same here - ish, but culturally we were middle class and prior to being poor had a middle class existance, so I'd say you are middle class.
 
The whole thing depends on how you define class. As far as I can tell there are several ways to do this:

  • Job
  • Education
  • Area of residence/type of house
  • Title
  • Parents' education/job
  • Upbringing, accent, style
  • Possessions, car, bank balance, amount of investment

I'd probably call myself middle-class. My parents are both educated and I'm a student. But I have a pretty strong accent, went to a comprehensive school and have had a few pretty menial jobs in the past.
 
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