Well this just opens up the whole air cooling vs AIO debate. Is it safer to have leaky AIO's in your system? if a pump fails will it still work? There are pros and cons to both arguments.
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Well this just opens up the whole air cooling vs AIO debate. Is it safer to have leaky AIO's in your system? if a pump fails will it still work? There are pros and cons to both arguments.
They're not as dodgy as some people think, otherwise the forum would be chock-full of users complaining. The vast majority of users have no issues at all.
"It's safer than driving a car".
I think case ends up with about same number of fans using AIO/CLC (most are CLC) or air. Difference is only that AIO/CLC fans will be on radiator mounted on a vent. As for looks, I think the big black snakes of hosing are so ugly they are fugly.
The cost of a good air cooler and a couple good case fans is maybe £70 Best cooler I know is £53.89 and 2-pack of PH-F140MP fans is £16.26 for a total of £70.15. That is much less than most CLCs and definitely much less than AIOs cost. With air cooling the only thing that can fail is fans, and system might run a little warmer with out one fan until new one arrives. With AIO/CLC pump is most common failure point, and sytem won't work wihtout pump so system is dead until new cooler is installed.
The cost of a good air cooler and a couple good case fans is maybe £70 Best cooler I know is £53.89 and 2-pack of PH-F140MP fans is £16.26 for a total of £70.15. That is much less than most CLCs and definitely much less than AIOs cost. With air cooling the only thing that can fail is fans, and system might run a little warmer with out one fan until new one arrives. With AIO/CLC pump is most common failure point, and sytem won't work wihtout pump so system is dead until new cooler is installed.
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Thermal right True Spirit 140 Power?
I remember you recommending this to me but the compatability is poor it's too tall and wide to be able to use in a lot of cases
That's my favorite and it does fit many cases and motherboards without problems .. it fits most Phanteks and Fractal Design full size cases. It's finpack reached 77.5mm from center CPU toward PCIe sockets and it is 171mm tall. But there are others almost as good for similar price. NH-D15 with similar cooling overhands PCie sockets 75mm from center CPU. NH-D15S has offset base so overhang is only 67mm.
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I have a Meshify C and ruled the 140 Power out as being too tall or too close to risk it, I also can't find one image on the whole of the internet of a Meshify C with one fitted and the Meshify C isn't an uncommon case and shares the same or very similar dimensions with the Define series
The same goes for the U14S, tall and wide making it incompatible with a lot of cases
TRUE Spirit 140 Power fits in Meshify C. Many TS140P owners have it in Meshify and Define cases. I had one in my Define 2.
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That's interesting because I would be interested in getting one if A - there was a seller that clearly listed it's the latest version Inc AM4 bracket and B - I could just see some kind of proof that it fits because TR website states 171.2mm and Meshify C Tempered Glass max cooler height is 170mm
Unfortunately I haven't been able to find either A or B anywhere
For A send me a trust message for more info about where to get it .
For B ask in same trust message for link to site showing at least half a dozen users with TS140P in Meshify C cases (I only skimmed first page) or google "true spirit 140 power in meshify C tempered glass case" without quotes. OcUK rules prohibit us for posting anything related to competition in forum.
Easy way to verify is measure from surface of motherboard to glass and subtract 8mm for the distance from surface of mobo to top of CPU IHS.
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Thats ok I appreciate that but we've spoken about the site before and I just found it again and can see it lists the cooler on there. I think I found the thread on another forum you frequent too, I'm going through it and found one pic of a TS140P in a Meshify C but for some reason it has a red fan. There is a lo of talk about them being no good for Ryzen on there too something to do with convex base
Most coolers have convex bases. Some Ryzen (ones with big CPU chips) with convex IHS don't seat well to many coolers. I do know of a couple TS140P issues but they were only a couple of many others having same problem, with coolers on Ryzen CPUs. You can check if your CPU IHS concave, flat or convex with a razor blade or other thin straight edge. Convex means you will see light on edges but not middle), flat you won't see light all the way across) or a little concave you will see light in middle but not edges with straight edge across IHS.
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It's too much effort, Thermal Right's marketing isnt great, their products are confusing and difficult to get hold of and there are so many versions of the macho that they could make a course and an exam based on it
I appreciate all the information but I would rather just go for something that I know will fit and work without issue, the 140 Power is risky even if it's cheap and there is a lot of choice for top teir air cooling now the deepcool assassin 3 is looking very good too
I appreciate all the information but I would rather just go for something that I know will fit and work without issue, the 140 Power is risky even if it's cheap and there is a lot of choice for top teir air cooling now the deepcool assassin 3 is looking very good too
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https://www.reddit.com/r/intel/comments/dti3jg/alphacool_lt_360mm_vs_arctic_freezer_ii_360mm/
I just did a comparison between these 2.
I just did a comparison between these 2.
